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Unknown A
Folks, we have a jam packed show for you here today. The Big Promise swami will be joining us later, talk about his Ohio gubernatorial run. We'll do like a full breakdown of the Oscars. I mean, a full breakdown. I actually slogged through virtually all the best metro nominees on your behalf. So we'll go through all of those and we'll get to everything related to Ukraine and. But we begin today with basically what appear to be some sort of Geraldo Rivera reveal of the Epstein files. Y'all remember that episode of Geraldo Rivera in which he tried to open Al Capone's vault and then he did and there's nothing inside? Well, it was basically that. And this has led to a bunch of speculation that secretly, somewhere, the Epstein files are still there. And that actually the lack of justification for more material being out there is demonstrated by the lack of material.
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Unknown A
This sort of stuff's annoying. I want all the Epstein files out there, every single bit of it, all of it, as much unredactedly possible. The only parts theoretically that should be redacted are things to protect the victims, certainly nothing to protect the allegations against perpetrators. I want to know exactly who Jeffrey Epstein was, who was opping him, because the question of how he made his money is a serious question. And why he was basically allowed by law enforcement to gallivant around performing atrocities against young women on behalf of powerful men with his girlfriend, paramour and co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell and all the rest of this. But that did not happen yesterday. And I gotta say, I think that these distractions are really not great for the Trump administration. They're really not. The Trump administration is very serious. I keep saying this because it's important. I want the Trump administration to be highly successful and they're important things to do.
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Unknown A
We need to rebuild the American military. We need to rebuild the American economy and unleash its dynamism. We need to get our debt under control. We need to cleanse the EI from all aspects of the federal government. We need to reshape America's foreign policy around rising threats like China. There's tons to do and not a lot of time to do it. And so these sorts of shiny object distractions that don't materialize into anything, I think that they are a problem. And I think that again, they lend credence to the opponents of the Trump administration, which I don't want to happen. Well, yesterday was kind of a bleep show, frankly, when it came to the Epstein files. So basically, basically, it is Now, Friday, on Wednesday, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General of the United States, had announced that she would be releasing some new Epstein files.
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Unknown A
There'd be new files showing names that we hadn't seen before, materials that we hadn't seen before. Here she was explaining, you said last week that you have the Epstein files on your desk.
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Unknown B
When can we see them and what's taking so long to release them?
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Unknown C
I do, Jesse, there are well over this. This will make you sick. 200 victims. 200. So we have well over. Over 250, actually. So we have to make sure that their identity is protected and their personal information. But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know, the personal information of victims. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now. You're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office.
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Unknown A
Okay, so in that clip, she says there'll be new Epstein information released by her office tomorrow. And she says, it's on my desk. That's what the Attorney General of the United States says. So everybody all day long is waiting for the release of this information. Literally all day long. And then sometime yesterday morning, pictures start being released of a bunch of social media influencers who are holding up binders that supposedly contain new Epstein information. And these social media influencers, many of these people are people with them. I'm friendly, Wheeler. It was just great. I think Liz is terrific. It was handed to Lizard TikTok and Jackpot Sok and a bunch of other people. It was a big binders at the Epstein files, phase one, and people were holding them up kind of like trophies, which, you know, frankly, I think is sort of a bad look when you are talking about the release of criminally oriented documents about the abuse of minors.
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Unknown A
I don't think it's amazing, look, to walk out holding this up as though you just won an Olympic medal. But in any case, we then were like, okay, fine. It's an odd way to release it, but can we see what's in it? And then it turns out of the course today that the answer was there was basically nothing in it. The binder was filled with stuff that we already knew, and there's effectively nothing new in the binders. And this became clear pretty quickly, actually. So Anna Paulina Luna, who's leading up a task force in Congress review the action documents, put out a tweet at 210 yesterday, quote, I know the task force were given or reviewed the Epstein documents being released today. A New York Post story just revealed that documents will simply be asking his phone book. This is not what we or the American people ask for.
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Unknown A
Get us the information we ask for instead of leaking old info to the press. Okay, so nothing new here. And so then the question became, well, what a bleep show? When you said there was gonna be a big reveal, we can get some new information. By the way, this is the second time this has happened. We were told that JFK files were gonna be released and that was gonna explode everything that never happened. Because guess what, guys, we kind of know all there is to know about the JFK assassination. It's been more than half a century. There have been many, many, many reports on it. And lots of documents revealed. This kind of conspiratorial angle that the right seems to have fallen in love with, that unanswered questions must be answered in the most perverse possible way. And if the evidence isn't there, then we just keep saying that there's a lack of evidence and lack of evidence is actually proof of evidence.
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Unknown A
Again, I'm willing to follow this evidence wherever it leads. I want the answer the same as you. And unlike the JFK assassination, where by the way, it was Lee Harvey Oswald, unlike the JFK assassination, where there's a plethora of video forensic and documentary evidence available in the Epstein case, we really don't know what the hell happened. We still don't know any of the key questions. Who was running him, if he was an op, what exactly he was doing, who are the people on the island, what kind of take he had all those wrong answers. I understand why there's so much dyspepsia over the Epstein case, but if you're going to do a reveal, that means you better, you better have some goods, right? Something better come out and it didn't come out yesterday. And then people are right to be angry about it. I think that it is bizarre to release it to social media influencers as opposed to releasing it to many journalists.
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Unknown A
I'm not talking about journalists on the left, I mean journalists on the right. Meaning though the Washington freak has a bunch of excellent investigative journals. We at the Daily Wire have investigative journals. We like people who we hire, we pay to actually go through documents at a legal granular level to do this sort of stuff. Or you could just release all the online and household peruse it. Now the best way to do this is so we could all see it. The kind of release strategy was weird. And then when it turned out there was nothing in it, then the repercussions began. So the repercussions began with a letter From Attorney General Kambandi to Cash Patel over the FBI. And now Kambandi is claiming that Kash Patel is essentially having the wool pulled over his eyes by underlings who. Who may be getting rid of documents.
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Unknown A
Again, I'd love to see evidence of this. If that's true, that's criminal offense. Destroying relevant criminal documents would be a criminal offense and people should go to jail for it. So if we're making those sorts of allegations, you shouldn't just throw them out there. Shorter letter saying, quote, Dear Director Patel, before he came into office, I requested the full complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received approximately 200 pages of documents which consisted primarily of flight logs, FC's, list of contacts and listed victims names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents responses to my request and was repeatedly assured by the FBI we received the full set of documents. Late yesterday, I learned from a source the FI field office in New York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and investigating.
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Unknown A
Despite my repeated request, the FBI never disclosed the existence of these files. When you and I spoke yesterday, we were just as surprised as I was to learn this new information. This is her saying someone, someone out there in FBI land is covering things up. It's not your fault, Cash. It's not my fault, AG Pambondi. It is the fault of these unspecified of the New York office of the FBI are destroying documents or hiding things, again, criminal offense. People should go to jail. If that is True. Quote, By 8:00am Tomorrow, February 28th, the FBI will deliver the full and complete FCM files in my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings and materials related Jeffrey Epstein and his clients. Regardless of how such information was obtained, there will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access. Are there this work? I'm blaming Cash Patel, but letting him off the hook.
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Unknown A
The DOJ will ensure that any public disclosures of these files will be done in manners, protect the privacy of victims and according to the laws I've done my entire career as a prosecutor. I'm also directing you to conduct an immediate investigation into why my orders the FBI was not followed. It will deliver to me a comprehensive report of your findings and proposed personnel action within 14 days. I appreciate your immediate attention to this important matter. I know we are both minutes of transparency for the American people. I look forward to continuing to work with you. This is our president and our country. Okay, so first of all, her issue with that letter publicly is a way of shifting blame. I mean there are a couple ways of reading it. One, this is totally true that actually there's somebody in the FBI offices who is scurrilously hiding away thousands of pages of documents that we've never seen and shrouding them in the background.
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Unknown A
Okay, again, if that's the case, that should not just be a matter of the records show up at the at the office of the doj. That should be a matter of people who are doing that thing should not only be fired and prosecuted. That's a very serious allegation. Or the other way we can read this is this was pretty humiliating that Pambagi thought that she had new stuff. Nobody in her office bothered to check whether it was new stuff. They released it to a bunch of social media influencers in order to get clicks and then it turned out there was nothing in the files. Okay, those are the possibilities. So Liz Wheeler again is excellent. Love Lizzie, human being. She put out a statement quote, president Trump and AGM bomb bombing committed releasing the Epstein files. The FBI was told to deliver the files to Bondi.
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Unknown A
They did. At 200 pages Bondi smelled a rat because there was nothing juicy in the 200 pages. Just lights and rollout exit phone numbers, no smoking gun. Still Bonnie promised to release the documents so she prepared a binder of them. Then last night whistleblower contacted Bondi and revealed yes, YNY was hiding potentially thousands of Epstein files to find Bonnie's order to give them all to her. Retalk recordings, evidence, etc. The juicy stuff named these swamp creatures of Sienna and why it sees that Bondi cash. And you be outraged that the binder is boring. You should be because the evil deep state lie to your face. The binder is powerful because it's tangible, physical, 11 inch and disgusting stuff. Yes, ny tractable. Okay, the binder is not powerful. The binder is empty. It is. And Pam bod you want to say this. She could have just said this without the reveal of the binder.
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Unknown A
Again, this looks like a low level bureaucratic screw up and now people are backfilling the story. I'm just gonna give you the honest story. That's what it appears to be. I wish I didn't have to say that. But again, the American people deserve answers to these questions, not either obfuscation or silliness. And if it turns out by the way that there are no thousands of pages of documents and then they're not revealed because they don't exist, then this of course is only going to feed the fire of you know, absence of evidence is actually evidence, right? If it's not there, it must be, because once was there and we never got it. You want to feed conspiracy theorists? This is the way to do it again. I want full release of everything forthwith. And the Trump administration is in charge, both the FBI and now the AG's office.
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Unknown A
So there are no excuses left. Either reveal it all or. Or say it has already been revealed. Or prosecute the people who actually got rid of documents. Those are your three choices. There are no other choices. Don't blame everybody else. Like, do the thing, give us the stuff. And if the stuff ain't there, tell us that the stuff ain't there tells us why this stuff ain't there. But listen, we deserve to see the Epstein documents, obviously. Obviously. And we also deserve our freedom because this country is founded on freedom. Freedom from a country that forced us to buy their overpriced tea and then tried blockating us on when we dump their tins to the ocean. How'd that work out for you, Great Britain? Well, it's time to throw your overpriced big wireless contract overboard as well. You don't need to pay hundreds of bucks a month just to get a free phone.
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Unknown A
These are serious issues. By the way, this also applies to the House Judiciary Committee. And again, I love the people in the House Judiciary Share Committee. I'm friends with many of them. You don't do what you did yesterday. Yesterday the House Judiciary Committee put out a link and they said this is the link to the new FBI files. And then it was a Rick roll. I'm sorry, it's not a joke. The mass of underage girls and trafficking of underage girls to prominent men, that is not, that is not a subject for jocularity. Take it seriously. I mean this across the board, seriousness of purpose is going to mean seriousness of result. And if it's unserious, then all you're going to end up doing is distracting people with shiny objects over here, not getting the job you need to get done over here with the other hand.
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Unknown A
And that's just not what you're looking for here. It's not what you're looking for. The level of distraction has to come down. It does. Because there are serious things to be done. Trump has appointed an Amazing cabinet. His cabinet is filled with stars. He's got a big agenda, things to do, a short time to do them. These sorts of distractions either put up or shut up. We're now joined online by journalist and TV host Emily Austin. She left the White House yesterday with again, that binder of the Epstein,150 and the story highlights. And Emily, thanks so much for joining the show. So why don't you tell us what happened yesterday? Obviously a lot of controversy online about the release of the Epstein binders, which didn't really contain much that was new, apparently. Why don't you tell us what actually went down? The White House.
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Unknown C
Right. So initially we were invited to the White House, a delegation of, you know, Republican, conservative, media, independent journalists, influencers, whatever you want to call it, to meet with Vice President J.D. vance and then to our surprise, Kashmir Tellajoy. And then came and it was a really nice, you know, environment. We were being briefed on policies that implemented, etc. Now, coincidentally, that morning was the morning that Pambandi received the exact binder we received on her desk in which we didn't open it in the briefing. But later on, like everyone else, we find out that like you just said, there's not much new information about here. But the point of the binder that everyone seems to be missing was that this is what the FBI gave Pambandi and expected us to be satisfied with these files rather than being outraged that they're withholding thousands of documents and being outraged at us for being the messengers trying to show you.
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Unknown C
This is what the Attorney General received, this is what we received. It's a step in the right direction. But all the outrage towards the media personalities that were there rather than the FBI corrupt agents that are holding this information, it's just kind of ironic and it's just dividing the party for no reason.
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Unknown A
I mean, one of the things that's kind of bizarre about the whole situation is it sounds like there was not natural plan to simply handle social media influencers, these binders. But the binders were there and then they're handed to you guys. It sounds like it's kind of sprung on a lot of social media influencers. You had no intention of going there and being the kind of source of revelations about the FC documents when you went there.
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Unknown C
Yeah, it definitely wasn't planned. It wasn't our intention to. Whoever didn't want to post it or publish it necessarily didn't have to. They didn't like definitely didn't have to. And one thing I definitely want to debunk is that there's this narrative going around that we were, like, paid or instructed to leak it or we were encouraged to do. Literally nobody was encouraged to anything. Obviously, we're independent journalists. If there's something in there to leak, of course you want to leak it. And one thing that people are forgetting is Trump did make a promise that he was going to enable the independent journalists to not only rely on traditional media, one thing that was mentioned yesterday was that they want to start getting, you know, more conservative independent journalist resources in the press room. They want Breitbart to be able to have access. They want more than just Fox News and CNN and CNBC to be able to have access.
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Unknown C
But then it seems like when they give access to the independent journalists, like, everyone's mad about it.
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Unknown A
So let's talk for a second about the sort of action that happened after that. So the binders are given to you guys. Some people walk out, they're pulling them up triumphantly, which, again, I'm not such an amazing optic, but that happens. And then the revelation comes out. The binders themselves don't contain much information. And right after that, Pamonti then releases a letter publicly calling on Cash Patel to investigate SCNY for not releasing the documents. I mean, I guess my question is, why didn't you just release that letter in the first place? Why the whole sort of rigmarole with the binders as opposed to just say, publicly, we found out from an informant inside SCNY things are being destroyed. Cashgo investigating to go do this. I'm not sure what the point of binders was.
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Unknown C
I think my take on it was that they wanted outrage. I don't think they wanted it directed at us, but they wanted it more. So we requested the Epstein files. They gave us a bunch of baloney in a binder. They expect us to be satisfied with it. So everyone should be very unsatisfied with it. And now Cash will tell us to get their remaining files. And it wouldn't have happened by that letter until the whistleblower from SCNY came out, said, hey, we're actually sleeping on a bunch of files here in the New York bureau. You know, you should get on it.
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Unknown A
If that hadn't happened, I don't know.
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Unknown C
Where we'd be today. Why the whole public thing? I think it was a publicity stunt where it's saying, hey, look, this is what we got. We don't buy it. We're going to investigate it. And regarding the whole leaving the West Wing with the binders up in the air. I'm gonna be very blunt about this. They were not supposed to do that. We were instructed when we got the binders that they want Pambondi to have the first say in it, and then we can be the first ones to have, like, the access on it. There were a bunch of reporters outside the West Wing waiting for the UK's Prime Minister to come. They lifted their binders. We were on a. I called an embargo for three hours. They said, don't post till 3:30. I honored that a few others honored that a few others clearly did not.
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Unknown C
And it kind of ruined it for the whole team and actually made it a lot worse than what it was.
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Unknown A
Well, Emily, really appreciate you coming on and clarifying what happened. Thanks so much for your time.
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Unknown C
Thank you.
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Unknown A
Well, speaking of distractions that people don't need, Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan arrived in the United States yesterday. They, of course, are American citizens, They're dual citizens, or, in the case of management, seven citizenships. And he showed up in the United States. The reporting was the Trump administration put significant pressure on the Romanian government to allow them out of their house arrest in Romania so they could come to the United States. As I said yesterday on the show, I don't know the legalities here. I don't know whether it is an interesting Romania to do that. I don't know. There was American pressure that actually secured their release. All I can say is anyone who is celebrating their arrival in America has a screw loose, because these are some of the worst people in the world. They're not good people by their own admission, just by their own state of commons.
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Unknown A
These are not people you would want to have anywhere near your wives, daughters or families, unless you're an insane person. Well, President Trump was, in fact, asked about the arrival of the Tates and all of the talk about how the Trump administration had pressured for their release. And here was President Trump yesterday saying, no, I don't know anything about this and don't want any part of it. So good for President Trump.
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Unknown B
Andrew and Tristan Tate landed in Florida today on a private jet after being.
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Unknown A
Released from custody in Romania.
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Unknown B
They are accused of human traffickers, not thought of as good people in many circles. Did your administration pressure the Romanian government to release them? And if so, I know nothing about that. I don't know. You're saying he's on a plane right now? I just know nothing about it. We'll check it out. We'll let you know.
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Unknown A
So, again, I think President Trump saying, I have no interest in this particular topic is the right approach. And anybody in his administration who decides to make this top priority, I'm confused why that was a top priority at all unless you have evidence that they were being mistreated in some deep abiding way by the Romanian justice system as well as the British justice system. Ron Santos, the governor Florida was asked about this. He said, well, no, I really want them here in Florida. So we don't like alleged sex traffickers in the state of Florida.
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Unknown B
We have no involvement in that. I read about it through the media. Clearly the federal government has jurisdiction whether they want to rebuff this entry into the United States. And I have confidence that whether it's Pam Bondi or Christine that they will be looking at that. I do know our Attorney General James Boothmeyer is looking at what state hooks and jurisdiction we may have to be able to, to deal with this. But the reality is, is no, Florida is not a place where you're welcome with that, with that type of conduct. I'm in the air. I don't know how it came to this.
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Unknown A
We were not involved.
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Unknown B
We were not notified. I found out through the media that this was something that was happening.
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Unknown A
Again, this is a pretty large split that's now emerging inside the right wing of the party between people who really don't want anything to do with, you know, self professed pornographers, self described misogynists, people who are Muslim converts, who proclaim that Islam should actually dominate the uk, who stand for yaak, Hamas for some reason. There's a part of the party that seems warm toward this stuff simply because it's oppositional in some way to left wing agenda items. Although again, the solutions seem to foment actually a lot of left wing gender items such as, for example, sexual promiscuity. And then there's part of the party which I'm not interested in any part of this. And it seems as though President Trump actually is on the same page here as Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida. And obviously you can hear Governor Rossantis Sangkins. We're going to look at legal authorities.
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Unknown A
If there's prosecutions that need to be brought in the state of Florida, we'll look at them. But as far as like whether the state of Florida is excited to have them here, the answer is absolutely not. That is the proper response to this. Well, it's good to know that there are some good people in our government because there are also bad people in our government at the irs and they are after you. The IRS is going to ramp up its enforcement efforts in 2025. With April 15 approaching, time is now running out. If you're facing back taxes or unfiled returns, delay naturally compounds the problem. Every day weight makes your tax situation more difficult to resolve. Do not let another tax deadline pass you by. While taking immediate action is crucial, attempting to deal with the IRS alone could be a costly mistake. And this is where Tax Network USA's expertise becomes invaluable.
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Unknown A
Good for Trump. Good for Desantis. Again, these are not distractions that are necessary in a time where actual heavy work has to get done. Speaking of which, today Vladimir Zelensky is heading to the White House to sign an agreement handing over bare mineral rights to the United States. President Trump is very excited to secure that deal. Yesterday he hosted Keir Starmer, the left wing Prime Minister of the UK And President Trump again, he's great with people and he's very friendly with humans. And so here he was with Kirstar, praising his accent, which is a pretty classic Trump right here.
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Unknown B
We look forward to welcoming you in the United Kingdom. Thank you once again.
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Unknown A
Thank you very much.
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Unknown B
What a beautiful accent. I would have been president 20 years ago if I had that accent. Okay.
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Unknown A
Keir Starmer's job was to sort of warm President Trump up to the idea that the United States would help to provide security guarantees in Ukraine. It turns out the best way to warn President Trump up to security guarantees in Ukraine, actually, is to sign economic deals with President Trump. That seems to be one of President Trump's key levers, is that if you are willing to allow the United States to make money, then obviously you have more interest in helping to defend you, which seems perfectly rational. Keira Starmer pushed the idea at this joint press conference that any peace in Ukraine has to be directed at being a lasting peace. You want something temporary, which, you know, would seem to be obvious.
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Unknown B
I think my views on Putin are pretty well rehearsed and pretty well known. And my concern is that if there's a deal, and I hope there is a deal, that it must be a lasting deal, that it's not a temporary measure. And that is why I think it's really important that Putin knows that this deal, a historic deal, which I very much hope comes about, is there, is there, and it's a lasting deal, and that we're able to deal with any inclination he has to go again or go further.
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Unknown A
And by the way, Trump is sitting here nodding, and President Trump then reiterates that idea. He's like, yeah, the whole point of the deal is that deal holds. You don't want a deal where we sign an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, including the eu, and two weeks from now, Russia's invading again. That's not something anyone wants. It sounds as though one of you.
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Unknown B
Completely trusts President Putin and one of.
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Unknown A
You doesn't trust it an inch.
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Unknown B
You know, it's trust and verify, let's call it. I think we both can be that way. You have to verify because you never know what's going to happen. I know a lot of people that you would say, no chance that they would ever deceive you. And they're the worst people in the world. I know others that you would guarantee they would deceive you. And you know what? They're 100% honorable. So you never know what you're getting. No, I have confidence that if we make a deal, it's going to hold.
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Unknown A
Okay. Now, one of the things that's hilarious is that in this press conference, Trump was asked in front of Summer about his comments last week. That's the ones who's dictator. There's one point out here that all the people on the right who felt the necessity to go out of their way to defend those comments were making a rather large tactical error. Again, President Trump's making things off the cuff. I said this for literally a decade about President Trump. Is that on his tombstone after 120 years, President Trump tombstone is going to read 45th and 47th President of the United States. He said a lot of belief, okay? A lot of the stuff that President Trump says is meant for a fact. Some of it is meant as bargaining position. Some of it use blurts. So the entire Republican Party infrastructure shaped itself around him calling Vladimir Zelensky dictator, when Vladimir Zelensky is actually not a dictator.
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Unknown A
He's the elected leader of Ukraine. He handled another election in the middle, in the middle of a massive war in which millions of your citizens are now living abroad, hundreds of thousands of your young men are on the front lines and hundreds of thousands of more Ukrainians are living in Russian occupied areas in Donbass and Crimea. The constitution is not actually allowed as a unified governmental position and non governmental position in Ukraine. By the way, the opposition parties who don't even like Zelensky say he's not a dictator. And it was totally fine to say that. Even last week, even after Trump had said that he was a dictator, it was totally fine to say that's not actually true. It didn't undermine Trump, did undermine NP's efforts. And yet you saw an enormous number of people on the right who started shaping their opinions to meet.
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Unknown A
What was an off the cuff comment by President Trump? How I know it was off the cuff? Because yesterday he said so. So in the press conference he's asked, did you? What about the Zelensky's dictator? Trump's like me. Was it really. Here we go.
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Unknown B
Did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question.
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Unknown A
Exactly. Giving a little smarter. He knows he said it, but he's like, you know, what are you gonna do about it? So herein lies the point. For people who are in my position, you don't always just have to mirror the thing that President Trump is saying to understand what he is attempting to do. You don't have to buy into the idea that Ukraine started the war in order to suggest that the proper solution to the war is an off ramp that everybody agrees has to happen in which Russia basically maintains control, Donbass and Crimea, security guarantees are given to Ukraine and economic redevelopment happens in Ukraine that the United States makes money off of. All that is fine and dandy and you don't have to repeat sillinesses that are untrue in order to achieve any of that. Well, yesterday during the Keir Starmer meeting, there was also a rather amusing moment where President Trump called on J.D.
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Unknown A
vance to basically shellack Keir Starmer over speech restrictions in the UK and this is like when you call JD on this stuff, it's like JD from the top rope. Here we go.
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Unknown B
I said what I said, which is that we do have, of course, a special relationship with our friends in the.
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Unknown A
UK and also some of our European allies. But we also know that there have been infringements on free speech that actually.
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Unknown B
Affect not just the British, of course.
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Unknown A
What the British do in their own country is up to them, but also.
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Unknown B
Affect American technology companies and by extension of American citizens.
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Unknown A
So that is something we'll talk about today at lunch. Again, you can see how much JD Is enjoying that sort of stuff. And Trump has been using Vice President in this way. He'll be in press conferences, he'll be like, JD Say something mean and JD okay, man, it's go time. And then he'll just go for it. And I will say it's pretty effective use of the Vice President of the United States. Speaking of which, I'd be remiss by not comments on the Vice President, who we narrowly avoided. So Tim Walls is still out there being a giant inflatable and a used car lot weirdo with his strange hands and odd motions and all the rest of it. It is still amazing to me that Kamala Harris said this of all the humans on earth. Had to be her beep pic. Just incredible. So he was on a show yesterday and he suggested that the country has now been stolen by fascists and Nazis.
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Unknown A
This is someone who loves America. I see the nonsense that's being put forward on that.
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Unknown B
We're going to need your voice there.
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Unknown A
Because I would just end with this. And we're seeing it in these town halls. That charismatic leader is not getting on there. You know, I see the pundits on tv. What's wrong with the Democratic Party? What's wrong with our countries being sold by fascists and Nazis. And we're trying to do all we can to try more. Okay, keep going with this. Seriously, that guy almost was vice president of the United States. He was like this close. America really dodged a bullet. Not just literally isn't President Trump dodged a bullet, but really dodged a bullet here in not having these clowns at the top of the American political hierarchy. Seriously amazing. Really, truly. Good job, America. Good job. Because we almost had that thing. We almost had it. All right, folks, coming up, it's a very stacked show today. Vikram as Swami is go stopping by.
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Unknown A
He, of course, has announced his run for Ohio governor. Also, we're going to our full review of the Oscars, which are happening on Sunday. I know you didn't watch the movies, but sadly for me, I did. But first, it all goes down Tuesday night, 9pm Eastern. President Trump addresses Congress language as America first agenda, immigration, the economy and national security. I already know we're going all in. Kick things off the backstage live, 8:30pm Eastern Time, where the entire crew breaks down once it sticks and sets the stage for President Trump's speech. Then we watch the full speech together live on Daily Wirelessness. No spin, no nonsense. And when Trump is done, we're just getting started. The game is back for real. Unfiltered analysis you're not gonna get anywhere else. This is history in the making. Do not sit on the sidelines. Watch it all live Tuesday night on Daily Wire.
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Unknown A
Plus subscribe now@dailywire.com well, earlier today I had the opportunity to sit down with Vikramaswami. Vivek, of course, friend of the show, ran for president last time around, was part of Joe's briefly. And now he's declared his running for the Ohio governorship. We had a chance to sit down together. Here's what we sounded like. Well, joining me online is Vivek Ramaswamy, who has now declared his run for the governorship of Ohio. Vivek, welcome to the show.
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Unknown B
It's good to see you, Vic.
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Unknown A
So let's talk about why you decided to run for governor of Ohio. There's a lot of things you could have done. You decided you want to remain in the sort of public service area and you want to run for governor of Ohio. Right now, you prohibitively. I had the rest of the field in the polling of the orders of President Trump. Elon Musk as well. What made you want to do this?
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Unknown B
Yeah, look, I looked at my impact on the future of the country. I had run for US President. One of the things I reflected On, Ben is many of the issues that I discussed even in my presidential campaign have to now be addressed by the states, by strong governors. Then you look at what President Trump is doing in Washington, D.C. i think he's going to be very successful in the next two years. But that means a lot of those programs, from education to health care are going to be shifted down to the states and to the people where they belong. So if you skate to where the puck is going in terms of driving a real change in the country, I think the center of gravity and politics is going to move to the states. Saving the country is going to belong to the states after President Trump has done his part.
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Unknown B
And then for me, there's a broader question of just staying in public service and public life. There's obviously in many ways you could wake up many days and say there's better ways to live than that. I came from the business world and we live a blessed, comfortable life. But my reason for remaining in this is that first of all, I believe in excellence. I want my home state. I was born and raised here. I'm raising my two sons here. I want my state not just to be one of the best in the Midwest, but the best in the country. And there are just so many basic fixes that you could bring to a state like Ohio. They're just really basic that would accomplish that, that I felt a sense of duty to do it right here at home. And you and I, we both live the American dream.
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Unknown B
My wife's lived the American dream. We want our kids to live that same American dream. And we're pretty passionate about having an impact and we're grateful for what the country and the state have given us. And so in some sense, this is just our way of giving back.
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Unknown A
So, Vivek, the state of Ohio has moving significantly to the right over the course of last several election cycles. I'm going to talk to number one, it was bellwether state, now is a fairly solidly red state. What are some of the biggest problems that are facing the state of Ohio that you'd want to cure and focus in on as governor of the state?
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Unknown B
Yes, it's not California doesn't require a U turn, but I would say it is a conservative state.
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Unknown A
You're right.
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Unknown B
In its electorate, it's time for the state to actually be governed like a conservative state. And there I see room for progress and actually stepping on the gas. Thinking about the basic table stakes on economic policies. You gotta be a zero tax state, find a path to become a zero tax State. There's eight other states that have done it. There's no reason we can't do it right here in Ohio. Bring down the property tax burden. You know, I think with my own instincts, in the long run, I'd love to see I get to zero, but at least bring it down to a reasonable place. Slash and burn the regulatory state. In some ways, I want to see Ohio become a special economic zone for the rest of the country at the heart of the Midwest for really any entrepreneur, for industrialization, for production, the natural gas timelines for building a new pipeline in the state.
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Unknown B
We've got great natural resources underneath our ground drill, baby. Drill belongs in Ohio. And not a lot of people are actually even aware of the natural resources we have. And yet it takes 18 to 36 months to get a new permit when that should be six months or less. And so the sum total of that is when you look at other states across the country, Texas And Florida, number one and number two, when it comes to people moving into the state versus out, Ohio's number 38 today. And I see an opportunity over the next eight, 10 years for Ohio to find its way actually to number one on that list. That might sound unrealistic today, but if you look at the first industrial revolution, Ohio was the leading state in the country. And I think with a strong governor, I'm motivated. I think we can get there again.
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Unknown B
I'd say the other distinctive part of my candidacy, and this is really what gets me going, Ben, is not just making sure that we're at the forefront economically, but to be able to do something that no other state has actually done is leading in the crisis of educational achievement in America. That's a 50 state problem. Right now. Our kids aren't excelling in math and reading and writing. Even if we talk about conservative solutions like school choice, we're talking a strong proponent of ardently in favor of. We also have to take aim at looking at how we revitalize our public schools on their own terms. And I just for my part, refuse to stand by and watch idly as China laughs at our gradual decay into oblivion when 75 of 8th graders in this country aren't even proficient in math according to international standards. Heck, there's kids in other countries where English isn't even their first language now, doing better on English proficiency than our own kids here.
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Unknown B
And just to speak some hard truths, I found that people, frankly, both political parties aren't too patient. They don't hear this message because it hurts to hear. But if you care about somebody, you tell them the truth. And I think being a true conservative state governed according to conservative principles means targeting that educational achievement deficit. Yes, beat the dei, yes, beat the woke. I mean, I led the crusade on that and I believe in all of that. But there's a deeper failure here as well as it relates to just raw educational achievement on math, reading, writing, physical education, civic education. And I think we as conservatives need to step up in directly tackling those deficits. And that's one way where I hope to set the standard for the rest of the country. The Ohio standard, we could call it, for the way the rest of the states, I think, need to catch up as well.
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Unknown A
Big one thing that's distinguished you from a lot of other Republicans is your focus on economic dynamism, on innovation. That's a really important thing for the Republican Party. It's also a really important thing for the Midwest. There's sort of been this model that's been applied by really a lot of blue governors in the Midwest that's regulate and subsidize, regulate and subsidize. You heavily regulate, then you subsidize all of your political friends with taxpayer dollars. And sometimes this is supposed to bring jobs back or spur particular friendly industries. And what you're talking about is something different, which is take the shackles off of American industry in places like Ohio and you will get naturally an incredible level of growth.
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Unknown B
That's exactly right. And I say that the reason to flash and burn the regulatory state and over bureaucratization, regulation and taxation isn't because that's a more important objective than standing for American workers and manufacturers. It is because it is the best way to lift up American workers and manufacturers. And I'm keen to make sure that our Republican party doesn't make some of the mistakes as Democrats have made in these blue states in the Midwest as well. The right answer isn't to foster greater dependence on the government and justify that with a new victim of culture. The right answer is to find a path to independence from the government. That's actually true compassion. That's not cruelty, that's compassion. Things like work requirements for Medicaid, for welfare, that's even in the long run, been good for the people who receive it.
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Unknown A
It's not good to be dependent on.
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Unknown B
The government permanently in this handout welfare state that leads to depression, anxiety, fentanyl suicide, opioid usage, as we've seen in so much of this part of the country. It's really good for nobody. And you know, the left has made that mistake for years, we've been good at calling that out. And we should. And we've won. We won decisively in November. I think for that victory to mean what it should in the long run, I think we in the Republican Party, in the conservative movement, in the pro American movement, owe it to ourselves to stick to the principles that made America great the first time around. And there I see President Trump doing a great job in Washington, D.C. downsizing that federal government, taking aim at the tax rates, taking aim at the type of things that held back the American economy. But we got to stay true to that North Star rather than getting distracted in other, other directions.
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Unknown B
I would just say. And the way I want to lead Ohio, I want to embody those same principles of excellence, of dynamism, rejection of victimhood, rejection of dependence on the government. Embracing capitalism. Yes, I don't think it's a bad word. Capitalism and meritocracy, not crony capitalism, but the real thing. I want Ohio to be the state that leads the way, where freedom is our heritage, excellence is our destiny. And we got to remember that. I think it's true in America. I think it's every bit and true here. I believe in the heart of America right here in Ohio. It's a state where you have 60% of the population in North America within a single day's drive of where we are right now. Led the way in the 19th century, led the way in the early 20th century. I'd like to see Ohio occupy that leadership position again with some friendly cooperation, let's just say with Texas and Florida.
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Unknown B
I'd like to see Ohio be in that vanguard of states that actually shows the country what's possible.
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Unknown A
That's Vic Ramasami running for governor of Ohio. I'm sure that he is well positioned in this primary. Vic, you want to give your campaign or help out, where should they go?
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Unknown B
Go to the vakeforohio.com appreciate support across the country because it's about lifting Ohio up, but it's also about setting a standard for the rest of the country. That's the standard we hold ourselves to. And I appreciate support from anybody, however big, however small. It's a big movement here.
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Unknown A
Nice big one. Big. Good luck in the race. Control check back in.
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Unknown B
Thank you, man.
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Unknown A
All right, folks. Of course the Oscars are this weekend and we're going to go through the various categories. I'm going to handicap the Oscars for you. I have actually seen virtually all of the best picture films at this point. I know I suffer so that you don't have to. I'm being joined in this journey by producer Phil who's of our in house film expert and actually Phil is quite good at this. How many of these films have you actually seen that are not in the Best Picture, Phil?
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Unknown D
I have not seen Wicked, I have not seen I'm Still Here and I have not finished the substance yet.
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Unknown A
Okay, so this is good. Our cross over here is not super high. The only ones that I've actually not seen are a complete unknown. I haven't seen Conclave. I've read the book so I figured I didn't need to see the movie and I haven't seen I'm Still Here all the others I've seen. So this should be a good prosper. I think the only one that neither of us have seen here is probably I'm Still Here. Yeah. So okay, between the two of us I think we can do this.
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Unknown D
So let's try.
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Unknown A
What's bizarre about this Oscars is how many nominations. First of all, Amelia Perez racked up Amelia Perez racked up enormous number of nominations. 13 nominations. The brutalist racked up 10 and Wicked racked up 10. And Emilia Perez started off this happens almost every year, the Oscars where Emilia Perez was the frontrunner and then there was woke blowback and then Emilia Perez was not the frontrunner. We've seen this so many times with Green Room Substance, La La Land. This sort of stuff tends to happen a lot. What's bizarre about the anti woke blowback on Amelia Perez is that it is the wokest most horrible film ever perhaps. And yet somehow there's anti will blowback because the person who was nominated for best actress, a dude, had a bunch of bad old tweets that apparently mean the entire film that has to be thrown out entirely. Now the film should have been thrown out entirely in the first place because it sucks.
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Unknown A
But that blowback has now led to a sort of race for who is going to replace Emilia Perez as front runner. Right now my understanding feels that the front runner is Enora. Is that right?
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Unknown D
Yes, it is. It got the Palme d'or and it has won pretty much every single best picture award you can think of, except for the SAG Ensemble award which went to Conclave.
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Unknown A
So I'll go through each of these. We'll do like some capsule reviews of these particular films. So Anora, as we say, is now the frontrunner. It's directed by Sean Baker. Sean Baker did the Florida Project, which actually I kind of liked and also did Red Rocket, which I did not like. And Tangerine, which I did not like. And Sean Baker is kind of this. This auteur director who apparently has no capacity to write because Nora is truly an awful film. Like, truly a very, very bad film. The plot of the film is sex worker, meaning a prostitute, meets Russian oligarch son. Russian oligarch son really likes this girl that he's paying to have sex with him routinely while he plays video games and marries her almost on a whim. And then Russian family is like, this isn't happening. Nothing happens for about an hour. And then they kind of chase him around town.
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Unknown A
He disappears. They chase him around town. Finally, they uncover him. She realizes, as she should have from the beginning, that he's douchebag. And they give her a little bit of money to go away. She takes money to go away, and she flirts with one of the henchmen who's been sent to separate them. I think that's a fair summation of the plot.
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Unknown D
Yeah, that's pretty fair. And can you believe that? I guess the director one time, like, one Tulsi Gabbard tweet, and they're trying to cancel him for that.
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Unknown A
That's hysterical. First of all, again, it is amazing. These movies are terrible, and it's a truly awful film. It offers no character development. I think my favorite part of the film is there's a scene where Honora, who's a prostitute, is being confronted by the henchmen of the Russian oligarch's parents. The Russian oligarch parents and the henchmen call her a prostitute in front of her, and she can speak Russian, and she starts screaming at them. And all I can think of is, well, you are. I don't understand your objection. Literally, the whole movie is supposed to be an almost unapologetic look at sex work. Meaning, like, girls love it. It's super fun. There's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't damage your soul or you in any serious way. Even though, again. So the underlying thematic is what she's actually looking for is to be a married woman in a normal relationship.
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Unknown A
And then she can't have that because she is, you know, a prostitute. And so the film is in conflict with this stuff. On one hand, it wants to glorify sex work. On the other hand, the thing she actually is looking for is to not be a sex worker, but to actually be, you know, like a traditional housewife who's taken care of, which is kind of hilarious. And I think perhaps the most fascinating part about this film is that it's been characterized as a Cinderella story. The problem is you can't have a Cinderella story where Cinderella is ultimately unsympathetic. Right? I mean Cinderella in this particular film is again a sex worker who basically takes advantage of what appears to be a 70 IQ, 18 year old kid in order to get to his money. And somehow this is. This makes her a heroine of the story and a victim of the evils of society that won't accept the sex workers.
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Unknown A
So that was my take. It's 93% on Ron's man is the 90% of the audience. I don't know if the audience is thinking other than their only fans. Login was lost or something. So. The Brutalist has also been nominated for 10 Academy Awards. I have many, many thoughts on the Brutalist. Actually I will say it's at least interesting. Like there's some things that are going on. I don't like the political take of the film. I think there's one move that is made near the end of film. Again, spoiler alerts all over, guys. Like if we're going through the film, you'll have to actually deal with it. The Brutalist is beautifully shot, it's really well directed, the acting is across the board excellent. Dikers particularly is terrific in this film. It makes no political sense at all. The entire basis of the Brutalist, for those who haven't seen it, is a Holocaust refugee arrives in the United States.
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Unknown A
It turns out that he is a sort of master architect from the Bauhaus school. And he ends up doing the library for a very rich magnate played by Guy Pierce. Guy Pierce originally doesn't appreciate it and yells at him and doesn't pay him. And then Adrian Proby's character, who is this Hungarian artist, eventually he finds Hungarian artist announcements. And I realize what he did. Here's his masterpiece. Now I want to commission you to make a giant community center in honor of my mother. And so the whole movie is about conflict between these two characters where Guy Pierce is trying to get this thing built. He's not. He respects the talents of the Hungarian, but he doesn't like the Hungarian. But he kind of loves the Hungarian. It's like this bizarre love hate relationship that he has with the Adrian Brody character. And the whole kind of thematic of the film is America isn't.
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Unknown A
There's a sort of a weird, badly done Zionist plot in the Brutalist. The big problem is that number one case for Zionism is not only that the Jews need a place to go because everybody is constantly persecuting the Jews, which is true. But the case for Zionism is also. I mean, just as a Zionist, the case for Zionism is that there's a biblical basis to it. The Judaism actually believes that there's a holy land promised by God to the Jewish people. That's never dealt with in the film. And so what you end up with is Israel is sort of repository of almost anti American hatred. That basically what Israel is, a place for people to run away from America. Now, if you're gonna set it up that way, then what you have to do is basically show that Adrien Brody and his entire family are deeply mistreated by America.
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Unknown A
And so from the very outset, this is the director Brady Corbett's job is to show that America is not all that it's cracked up to be. From literally the first shot in the film, which is this big shot where you see the Statue of Liberty coming upside down. You see Avery Brody scrambled up the surface of the ship. It's taking him from Europe to the United States. And then the camera swivels upside down and you get the upside down Statue of Liberty, you know, right from the outside. This is an America sucks movie. And by the end, you also have a cross upside down. It turns out that America's rooted in Christianity and Christianity sucks, which is why she's apparently our victims or something. The problem is Adrien Brody is not a victim in this movie until about 3/4 of the way through the movie.
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Unknown A
Meaning that doctor treats him badly at first. And then there's a read on this movie where Guy Kisses is actually, for most of the movie, the hero of the film. Meaning he's a very rich person who finds an impoverished European immigrant, recognizes his talent, pays him enormous sum of money to make him a monument on a hill that serves no purpose other than the charitable. And in honor of his mother brings hires a Jewish lawyer to bring his family from Europe and get them out of his camp in Austria, have them live on his property, right? These are not the actions of, like, a typical movie villain. And so the entire movie is based around the idea that Guy Pierce is a villain. But then the first record is movie outside that ops. What do they do? They add in a scene in which Guy Pierce literally Adrian Brody's character.
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Unknown A
Now, by this point in the film, Guy Pierce supposed to be probably 60. And Adrian Brody's supposed to be probably 50 in the film at this point. And it's just. It's absolutely bizarre, except that they had to do it because otherwise Guy Pierce can't be portrayed as the villain. And so they're making Flash. The implication of the movie, which is that basically America's immigrant population for its talents, and then treats them badly, so much so they want to leave. The politics are really perverse and disgusting. It's a very well directed film. But because the politics are so perverse and because, again, the vast majority of the class is not supported. Conclusion. All of this feels very shoehorned in the last quarter of the movie, is kind of my take on it, I.
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Unknown D
Think, circling back to the scene you were just talking about with Guy Pierce and Adrian Brody. I feel like that was the least subtle thing possible. I feel like 99% of the audience is able to understand the allegory and the metaphor that he was going for. And then he just had to have that scene and have Guy Pierce explicitly say the things that you knew that he was thinking. Whereas just like 40 minutes ago, they had that scene between Harry and Zofia that implied something similar. But it was a much higher degree of subtlety that I think worked cinematically because it was showing, not telling.
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Unknown A
And again, I think Brady Corbett had to do that. The question becomes why they even do that. I think the reason he had to do that is because otherwise the setup is Adrian Brody's being really, really oversensitive here, right? He's like, okay, fine, so the guy doesn't like you. How many people like their boss? How many people like the people who. I mean, aside from. Obviously, all our employees, like, Phil loves me, but aside from that, I mean, clearly it's not. He actually does. But most people don't feel like that they have to love the person who's paying them to do a thing. And so the problem is that unless you set up that Adrien Brody is literally a physical victim, then you cannot actually set up the rest of the sort of moral of the film. Which is again, made perfectly obvious in the last part of the film as they Fast forward to 1980.
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Unknown A
Now, there's a big tribute scene to Adrian Brody's character. And they. And they explicate that when he created this bizarre monument on the top of a hill in Pennsylvania, that actually it was supposed to be taking elements from Dachau and Birkenau. So the idea was there's some sort of continuity between Nazism and American industrial capitalism, which is just, I'm sorry, sick and perverse in every way that it's possible to be sick and perverse. And anybody who takes away from, you know, world history that there is a similarity between people shoving you into a gas chamber and murdering you and your entire family and people commissioning you to build a tower on a hill in Pennsylvania. I don't know how far you have to have your head to ask him to that conclusion, but apparently, as far as Brady Corbett has set up his ass, okay, Conclave.
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Unknown A
I read the book, and Psycheden upped myself through the movie. The book was interminable enough. And I say that as a fan of Robert Harris today, who wrote the book. I've read a bunch of his books. So for those who missed it, I did like a little capsule review of Conclave, the book as well, before the movie came out, telling you what it was going to be. And indeed, it is that thing, because the movie is the book. Basically. Pope dies. Time to appoint a pope. College of cardinals all get together. Winner. Spoiler alert. Intersex person. Because it turns out that all the cardinals who find this out after the person is made Pope, it turns out they all decide it's important to violate all the vows they've ever taken in order to maintain the fiction that this person is actually just a genetic male as opposed to an intersex person who's actually female.
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Unknown A
So you have a lady pope. Sort of the. Sort of the idea of this film.
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Unknown D
Yeah, I felt like I was watching a Shyamalan movie in a way, because it was like this political thriller about who is going to ascend to the seat of the Pope. And then all of a sudden, the Pope has overs. It's like you're watching Split. It's about multiple personality disorder. And then all of a sudden, he comes. Hulk, Bruce Willis is dead at the end of six.
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Unknown A
Exactly. Exactly. And so I think, like, the reason. And so this is. The Catholic Church is mean and too conservative and needs to liberalize movie.
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Unknown D
My biggest issue, too, is that they don't really process that revelation that he has ovaries in a uterus. He kind of says it, and then the film ends a minute later.
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Unknown A
Yeah, well, I mean, that's true in the book also, there's like, a brief kind of internal monologue that the main characters that Ralph Fynes in the movie does, where the main character is like, well, you know, I could say something, but I really shouldn't say something. Okay, I guess I won't say something. And it's. Which is really stupid because really the entire debate theoretically should be about that thing. Right. You should have a whole movie about them debating, which is the point that I don't know what we do now. You know, there's like, Legality. Can you like. I don't know, any of those procedures. Is that revocable? How exactly does that work in this way? This sort of surprise ending concept is very much like Nickel Boys. So Nickel Boys is a movie about a school. It's based on an actual real school in Florida that was a reform school in which apparently students were abused for decades.
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Unknown A
Some of them were killed and apparently buried in a field. And, like, bodies have actually been found. There have been reparations that have been paid some of the families in the state of Florida over all of this. There's some controversy over whether this was just a generalized evil reform school that basically victimized all people went there, or that was particularly racist. And it's one of the controversies on the Florida school. Nickel Boy's novelization by Colson Whitehead that turned into a movie. And the movie is fine, but it's not particularly revelatory. The kind of. The reason I'm comparing it to Conclave is because the twist ending is the character you think you've been watching the whole time who's kind of in the future, in the late 1980s, who's deciding whether or not to go and reveal what happened at the school. That character, you think is one character the whole time?
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Unknown A
It turns out it's another character. The character you think it is was actually killed earlier in the film. This person took that person's name and lived out his life, basically. That doesn't change anything fundamentally in the film. This is one of my problems with some twists and endings in films. At least in Conclave, you can make a case that actually has some impact. In Nickel Boys, it really wouldn't matter at all whether the switch ever took place. If one of the boys been killed and the other boy had lived, that would make no difference to the actual plot of the film. I think it's more of an explanation for why the kid didn't come forward. Because he was actually, you know, inhabiting somebody else's life. Maybe that's the explanation. But there's nothing particularly that changes what happened during the story. That one character lived in, the other died.
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Unknown A
You could easily just left it alone. And I think the shock value of the switch is supposed to be like the big revelation. It just didn't do anything for me. As far as it being directed. Well, yeah, I mean, that means directed fine. I think it's interestingly directed in A Couple Boys because it kind of takes various perspectives. It's done from first person, so you see the camera in the place of the person for One character and then you see it switch and you see the same scene from the character of the other person. And so, you know, it's kind of a cool directorial trick. But we've also seen that with things like, for example, 1917. So I don't think there's anything particularly new about that, per se. It's fine. I don't think it's an amazing film by any stretch of the imagination. The substance.
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Unknown A
Okay, so I did not hate the substance as much as I thought I would hate the substance. I don't think it's anything special. I think it's a body horror film. I think that it's being given all sorts of plot. It's just because Demi Moore gets naked. And the entire plot of the substance is Demi Moore is an aging actress and she's fired from her job by close ups of Demis quite eating shrimp. And then at a certain point she is. She's given notice. She gets a car crash at the hospital. Somebody gives her notice of a thing called the substance that allows her basically to separate into two beings. One of them is a young version of Demi Moore, like a young, hot Margaret Quaylee version of Demi Moore. And one is older Demi Moore. And they have to switch off week to week. So the basic idea is that her soul or brain, whatever she is, inhabits one body and then inhabits the other body.
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Unknown A
We tweak and of course there starts to be tension because she wants to stay in the younger body. But then every time she goes back to the old body, her older body is more depleted because the younger body has essentially been drawing life force from that. The end of it is, of course, as with most horror films, you know, some sort of sick horror explosion involving lots of blood. The movie kind of peters out around an hour 15. And then for 45 minutes, you just kind of hovers there. Nothing really happens between hour 15 and two hours. The movie, an hour and a Half would've been a nice little horror flick at two hours. It's really, really overlong.
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Unknown D
It's interesting that you told me that this film is about the evils of sexism in America because Vanity Fair told me it was a stealthy trans allegory.
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Unknown A
Yeah, Vanity Fair is high on their own supply. And that was, of course, by a person, I believe, named Emily Saint John or something, who is a trans person.
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Unknown D
Saint James.
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Unknown A
Yeah, Saint James. Yeah. Emily Saint John's novelist, Emily Saint James is the. Is a trans person who believes that every movie is about him. And the substance is absolutely not a trans Allegory. It's about women aging in Hollywood and how they feel a lack of self because they're aging and because everybody's mean to them because they're older, which is clearly not true as anymore who's getting more work now than she's had in 20 years. By the way, the thing that works in Late Night the Devil doesn't work for me here in the substance, just thematically, is that the very basis of the substance is that fulfillment is to be found in sort of youth and beauty for women. And so when she goes back to being Margaret quietly, now she's young, instead of utilizing her youth and beauty to actually do productive and interesting things, she basically acts around.
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Unknown A
I mean, that's essentially what she does as a young woman when she parties and she has sex with that. The idea that, like, what a woman wants most out of, like, the fulfilling thing that is going to cause her to once relive her life is to essentially, you know, act like a teenager is really, really stupid. And so I don't think the movie flows in that way. And you know, what would have been useful, actually, is if she'd gone back and said, I want to reive my life. You know, what actually works if she'd gone back and said, I want to reive my life as a young woman, I want to get married and have kids.
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Unknown B
Right.
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Unknown A
That would actually create some real dramatic attention because then you would have sympathy for the idea that she wants to stay in a young woman and not be a woman. She has to reveal her life, but she made some bad choices. But it's none of that because, of course, Hollywood could never possibly think that a young woman wanted to get married and have kids.
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Unknown D
That sounds like a Daily Wire plus original.
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Unknown A
It does. It does. So we're scripting it in real time. And finally there's a quick drama review of that. Then you can. Obviously, that's a lot of traffic. I like to wick it. So of these pictures, the best picture, the only one that people are gonna be watching 10 years from now is Dune Part 2. The rest of these. Agreed. The rest of these kind of suck.
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Unknown D
So you think in an ideal world, Dune Part 2 would win this picture?
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Unknown A
Yes.
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Unknown D
Who's gonna win?
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Unknown A
I think, given the momentum, I think the Nor will probably win. I think there's too much controversy with the others. And somehow the movie about prostitution and SWARP with enormous amounts of pornography is the least controversial nominate on this list. But it just shows you where it is, right. Nora is the America is evil because it doesn't like Swork. The Brutalist is America's xenophobic. A complete unknown swat on line. Conclave is the Catholic Church is transphobic. Emilia Perez is Society is transphobic. Nickel Boyd's America is racist. The substances. America is sexist.
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Unknown D
The top three contenders are Anora, the Brutalist and Conclave. Out of three, which one do you think deserves to win?
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Unknown A
I mean, I think all three are bad. And again, I'm speaking out of turn here because I haven't seen Conclave. I've only read the book. But my assumption is that the most interesting of those three is the Brutalist, which at least is attempting, is attempting to do something thematically and at least it's well directing, well acted. Well, folks, there is your rundown on everything Oscars related. I know it's a bit lengthy. There are a lot of films there and we'll give you, I'm sure our full review of the Oscars themselves on Monday. Alrighty. Coming up, there's a new patriotic documentary that is coming out called Brothers After War. All that will Happen. So American Soldiers After War. We're talking to the director of that film. Speaking of which, you actually should come subscribe to Daily Bar plus because we have tons of amazing stuff that is happening.
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