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Unknown A
If America is taking side of Russia in a conflict, it calls into question all American aid. Are we the baddies?
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Unknown B
God, this is so cursed. Holy sh T. You have to be thankful like for him to say that after this blow up is like. Feels so malicious. That's an insanely malicious statement. I don't know man. Would they really have like planned the whole thing out? I wouldn't put it past them.
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Unknown C
This meeting with Zelensky, Trump, J.D. vance, the White House. I posted on my ex my Twitter yesterday, I said the most surreal thing I've ever seen in politics. I hated this. I posted on discord. I hated this.
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Unknown A
I titled this video read the Baddies after a sketch from that British show that Michael and Webb.
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Unknown B
Look, our caps. The badges on our caps, they've got skulls on them.
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Unknown D
Are we the baddies?
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Unknown A
This comes at an interesting time because I was just in pol in Romania visiting NATO sites and talking with NATO members. One of the sites that I visited was jtech or the Joint Analysis and Education center or Joint Analysis Training Education Center. Sorry, I still mess up. It is basically a schoolhouse that's founded by NATO, administered by Poland and run by Ukraine. The whole idea is that Ukraine has learned a lot over the last three years from their war with Russia. And their instructors come to Poland to help teach NATO members what they've learned things about drone warfare, robotics, unmanned systems. It's a really neat school. It's a great idea for a school. And NATO is learning a lot from these Ukrainian instructors. While I was in Poland, I attended an exercise where I watched dudes in gilly suits attack a trench line. And that seemed to me like one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard.
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Unknown A
Like, why are you wearing some hot ass gilly suit to attack the trench line? But what the Ukrainians have found is that wearing a ghillie suit not only breaks up your outline while you're moving across the field to hit the trench, it also lowers your thermal profile so it makes it harder for drones to spot you. And that's something that Ukraine learned the hard way and that they're sharing with us now that they have this school, this jtech. You know, Ukraine never really asked for anything more than weapons and ammunition. They have tested their flesh against metal in order to remain free from the yoke of authoritarianism. And at one point during the White House conversation Yesterday, Vice President J.D. vance asked the president Zelensky giver, thank you s for our help. And yes, Ukraine has said thank you. They helped found jtech and it's where we get to learn all of Ukraine's lessons to see how we can apply them to the next war.
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Unknown B
Just to be clear, they wanted like a personal thank you. A groveling is what they were looking for.
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Unknown A
So not only have they thanked us, they paid us in information. Also, every time Ukraine fires a Patriot missile, that data is going back to the US So we've learned a lot on how to do air defense from incoming theater ballistic missiles just from that. The funny thing is that while this conversation in the White House is going on, I believe while the meeting was taking place, there's a funeral in Ukraine for a young American former marine who went to Ukraine to volunteer and he lost his life in the fighting. His name was Ethan Hertrecht. And this is how Ukraine says thank you. The real winner in this whole exchange was Russia who seriously, you can't believe it's luck. I mean, when you are handing content wins to RT formerly known as Russia Today, you probably need to reevaluate your strategy, right? Kind of the scary thing for me was that my Newsmax colleague Carl Higby posted on Twitter about the exchange saying America is so back.
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Unknown A
And while I respect Carl Higby, I think it's a rather short sighted deal. Mainly because if America is taking side of Russia in a conflict, it calls into question all American aid. If America could hold back weapons systems because the President feels slighted or snubbed or the President, the person the President speaking to isn't doing what he wants him to do, that could put many weapons programs in danger, such as our sale of the F35 to India.
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Unknown D
And you know he's dying.
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Unknown B
It's all the world will be a.
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Unknown A
Better, safer place if India has American weapon systems and with India operating the F35. But why buy the F35 from America if just saying the wrong thing to the President could get him to cut off your supply of parts? And I think that's the real takeaway from this interaction. If I were Australia who just agreed to buy three Virginia class submarines from the US instead of buying some of France's submarines, I would seriously start taking a look at France's submarines again. Ours are quieter, but they come with a funding machine. I wouldn't want to risk a major defense platform on the whims of a man who was looking for what he called good television. You know, one of the things that President Trump said to President Zelensky was, you're not winning this. And for almost three years I have said there is no win, there is lose.
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Unknown A
And There is lose more. Russia isn't going to win and Ukraine isn't going to win. Russia literally can't win because the day the war ends is the day their economy collapses. But if America champions the cause of Russia or even takes their side or pursues sanction relief for Russia, then that gives Russia a soft landing and they can lose less. And that's about as close to a win as they're going to get. I think the only way Russia can lose less is if America supports Russia. America is supposed to stand for freedom and democracy, not good television. And the people of Ukraine have made it clear that they do not want to live under the control of Russia. And yet we just handed Russia victory essentially for free. Which begs the question, are we the baddies? If you want to help pay for my funeral expenses, grab the wind machine from Amazon or from Audible.
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Unknown A
It'll still help keep you busy until the last republic comes out. Also, grab one of my rock out with your chalk out aerosol church and bucket branding. Thank you for watching. I'm gonna go die down.
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Unknown D
Wow.
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Unknown B
One of the challenges for the next few years is we have to, like, we have to convince the. The American public because the administration doesn't matter anymore. So, like, somebody linked to this in Norwegian fuel supply cuts off to US Navy urges others to join Haltbach Bunkers. Haltbach Bunkers, a major Norwegian fuel company, has stopped repealing US Navy vessels and urging European firms to do the same. Like, for the current admin, this is just a win because he's, oh, cool. Well, we're just gonna waste money sending our Navy anywhere. We're not gonna send them anywhere, and that's fine. But I think you just have to give a bunch of W's to the current administration, and then you have to hope that the American people don't want America to just fully withdraw from the entire world stage. He disrespected the United States of America and its cherished Oval Office.
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Unknown B
He can come back when he's ready for peace. And they shot a fucking video. Why does Trump want to increase defense spending when he's pursuing detent. Detent with China, Russia there? I don't know. You're not asking the right or you're not oriented in the right direction. I don't think there's like a coherent thing. I think we just, like, say things and then we'll do things. Like, we want to. Like, they want to cut the Pentagon because smaller budget good. But they want to boost the military because big military good. Even though these things are Contradictory. Doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it's not about, like, what is real or what is just a reality. Just kind of like saying the things that make people feel good in the moment and they just move on to the next thing. So I think that probably detente.
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Unknown B
It's probably a waste of time trying to appeal to the current administration. And you just have to appeal, I guess, to the American people. Hopefully. You only need, like, a few percentage points of people to make the party unviable. Right. You don't feel like 50 of them. So, destiny, from the USA point of view, what's the difference between Ukraine getting NATO membership and Ukraine having European troops over the US backstop? Are they both tripwires for the US joining a future war? Of the Article 5, my understanding is that Article 5 can only be triggered if your soldiers or your territory is attacked in your territory. I don't believe that Article 5 is triggered if your soldiers are attacked in another country.
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Unknown A
A lot of people asked me to comment on President Zelensky's meeting with President Trump on Friday, Feb. 28, 2025, at the White House. Okay, now I'm sick. I went to urgent care yesterday. They said it's not the flu, and it's not Covid. I'm stuffy, I've been coughing, I have a fever. So maybe I have some advanced, genetically engineered Romanian freaking rhinovirus that I bought back to me from Europe. But right now I feel like I've been run over by a dump truck. The fact is that my latest novel, Last Republic, is on deadline, has to get sent to the editor, so I need to get that done. So I'm gonna make this quick because I need to get back in bed and die.
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Unknown B
By convincing the general public means going against all news everywhere at this point. True, we need state governors to shut the fuck up. Where's Kevin? Kevin Newsom? Yeah. I don't know, man. There's a lot of, like, big things that have to change, and I just don't see. I don't even know if the will to change. Some of these things exist. So it's hard. Like, I think the Democrats. But, like, this is so hard because they love this messaging so much. At least ones that I see the progressive democracy to drop all the weird shit about, like, the billionaires and the donors. Like, it's not time to cut potential funders out of the party that might align with you interests. Like, it's so stupid. The fixation on that and the. Jesus, I don't know, man. It's a lot of dumb. All the left media that doesn't care about actual elections.
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Unknown B
Stupid. The silence from past presidents is the worst. It makes it seem a more normalized. Past presidents typically don't speak on current things, I believe. Did Bush not support Trump in 2016 or was it 2020? And that was considered, I think, a pretty big deal. They said that like, I think past presidents just typically aren't involved in current politics. It's just like a norm, basically. But I mean, yeah, they should be now for sure. To be fair. Trump did win on that populism shit. It makes sense why leftists want their own populist message. Maybe a little. I don't know why the right is more. But there's. It's just. It's more than just the populism, though. It's all the crazy shit on top of it. Leftists have much better propaganda than center left liberals and they can harness populism much like Trump does. Yeah, but they don't like, it doesn't translate electorally like anywhere.
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Unknown B
Like where. Where are all of our communist socialist candidates winning elections? I think having the Putin just wants peace narrative is an important one. Maybe going over all the different pieces of currency, but these people don't care about the facts. That's a difficult thing. Like how. What do I like every time it's like, oh, we just need to show them all of these things in the past. Like they won't believe any of it. Right. Or they only need. Remember on the conspiracy brain, the right, they only need one thing. They can be wrong on 19 things. They only need one right thing and that's it for them. And on the other side, the other side could be right about 19 things and wrong on one thing. That's enough for them to discount it. Like there's something else going on. Yeah. God, this is so f.
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Unknown B
Cking cursed. Holy sh. T. What if Putin breaks the ceasefire?
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Unknown C
Whoa.
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Unknown B
What if a bomb drops on your head? Like, what a crazy stupid. People listen to this stuff in passing and trust the host. Either push back or not. Bring on guests who lie. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I guess you just have to be with a certain, like, I don't want to say low education, because that's not really accurate. Not what we're talking about. If you just don't have any base information about a topic, it's very easy for you to be misled, I guess. Every day I go to bed every night praying for the deep state to save us. Please, Deep state, where are you? Please, Please Deep State. Where are you at? Come please X and this is my podcast, the Following. It's a conversation with Satan, acclaimed CEO, entrepreneur, dear friend, and author of the recent best selling memoirs, from the Depths I Shall Tempt yout Soul Formerly Known as Lucifer.
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Unknown B
Satan and I have become good friends bonding over our shared love of literature, quantum physics, and creative methods of torture like this podcast. As always, I hope to approach this discussion with empathy, to bridge the gap, promote open dialogue, and let love triumph overall so that I can secure more AG1 partnerships. I'm Lex and this is my podcast that I made. I'll start talking. 29 minutes, bro.
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Unknown D
Well, today seemed to be a tempest in a teacup with world historical geopolitical consequences.
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Unknown B
That seems like a contradiction of terms.
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Unknown D
In many ways, but I think as.
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Unknown B
A speaker bold, I can say Zelensky's English better than Lex is Russian. I still can't believe Lex said the audacity in Russian. Bro, that was so cringe. It makes me want to interview some like, Mexican diplomat or some bullshit and try to like flex my high school one Spanish. I want to have this conversation in Spanish because I think that it's better so we can understand each other and then just like have a fucking translator where everybody sends. Oh my God, that's what just happened.
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Unknown D
So my question is, was it a setup?
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Unknown B
Was it planned? Or are we really the. The whole thing? The whole telling moment to me, but it's hard to. Trump is so stupid that he could say fucking anything. Anyway, the whole telling thing to me was that line that he gave of this is why we let. I'm glad I let this go on for so long. I think that kind of gives away United States. Reiterate for the 7 millionth time. Although doesn't matter. I'm just Boomer swimming into the wind. How much I hate searching on the Internet these days. We have all the advanced technology and so much shit. 10 years ago I would search for like Trump, Zelensky interview, whatever, a meeting. I would gotten the full video and like my top five results. Okay, here we have this. I need one more word, I guess. And now it's like clips and all this other stupid shit and what the f.
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Unknown B
Reactions and Christ. But okay, we need to have meeting here. I guess all the LLMs and AI in the world couldn't figure out what I was looking for. Thank you. Oh, kept this going. There it is.
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Unknown C
When you're wrong, we know that you're wrong.
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Unknown B
You see, I think it's good for.
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Unknown D
The American people to see what's going on.
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Unknown B
I think it's very important. That's why I kept this going so long. You have to be thankful, like, for him to say that after this blow up is like. Feels so malicious. That's an insanely malicious statement which makes me feel like this was. I don't know, man. Would they really have, like, planned the whole thing out? I wouldn't put it past them.
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Unknown C
The.
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Unknown B
World, and I want to get this thing over with.
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Unknown C
You see the hatred he's got for Putin. It's very tough for me to make.
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Unknown B
A deal with that kind of hate.
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Unknown C
He's got tremendous hatred and I understand that. But I can tell you the other side is exactly in love with.
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Unknown B
You know.
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Unknown C
I'd be so tough. But you're never going to get a deal that way.
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Unknown B
So that's the way it goes.
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Unknown C
All right, one more question.
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Unknown A
I would respond to this.
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Unknown C
So look, for four years in the United States of America, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin. And then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The path to peace and the path to prosperity.
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Unknown B
Can you guys please stop saying they were ready to make the deal? Unless you can link me an article showing that Zelensky was ready to sign a deal with no security guarantees. You are wrong and retarded. I know that you want to link something that says, oh, Zelensky was going to Washington to sign the deal. Bullshit. There is no shot he was going to sign any deal that didn't have some kind of security guarantee. Bacon. I don't believe that it would be pointless. It wouldn't be worth anything. I don't believe that that's the case. That he was. That he was going to. He was probably going there with the hopes of signing one, but he was, after getting some kind of security guarantee from the United States, is maybe engaging in diplomacy.
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Unknown C
We tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the President of the United States words mattered more than the President of the United States actions. What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
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Unknown D
That's what President Trump is doing.
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Unknown B
Can I ask? This is ridiculous, dude. It's nice to finally have some transparency. The transparency is truly welcome. What do you think explains the liberal media refusing to hold Trump accountable? I think that. I don't know. I think that they're still a little bit traumatized from being accused of like having Trump derangement syndrome over and over again. I guess it's pretty simple. Putin helped plan it out got some questions that would trigger him that told him let him cook and seem ungrateful country. I think it's ridiculous that we're focused.
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Unknown C
On this border in Ukraine. I got to be honest with you, I don't really care what happens to.
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Unknown B
Ukraine one way or another country.
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Unknown C
I think it's ridiculous that we're focused on this border in Ukraine. I got to be honest with you, I don't really care what happens to.
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Unknown B
Ukraine one way or another.
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Unknown C
Let's bring in Tyson Barker, a foreign policy analyst who most recently served in the Biden Harris administration working on Ukraine. Tyson, good to have you with us. If we can start from the beginning, what's your reaction to what happened in the Oval Office?
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Unknown D
Well, it's clearly a moment that will live in infamy. President Trump said it himself and I think it's consistent with his leadership style at the end that you know this will make for good television. And I think it was in some ways a produced moment. I think in the run up to.
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Unknown B
The him saying that at the end, I feel like it reinforced everything I said about the day. These guys are influencers. Trump is the first influencer president and all of a sudden they just forcing attention.
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Unknown D
This, this visit by President Zelensky, there were questions around whether the critical mineral agreement was being negotiated in good faith by the Trump administration. And the intervention by Vice President J.D. vance in the Oval Office is, to be quite frank, in this way, highly irregular. So I think that there needs to be consideration as to whether or not this was actually premeditated.
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Unknown C
One of the many things you allude to in this debate that was laid bare was the personality of Vice President J.D. vance. What did you make of his involvement.
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Unknown B
In last night's clash?
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Unknown D
Well, he has become the tip of the sphere for a specific faction of the Trump administration. He is somebody who speaks in an unfinished way to the alt right. He is somebody who's connected to alt right media. And we see him trying to basically assume that role as ambassador for a bad cop side of the administration in multiple iterations, including the Union Security Conference.
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Unknown B
So that was Katie Vance. Am I missing things? Does he do Paul Wright stuff consistent with this role?
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Unknown D
But it's hard to imagine a situation in which he makes such a statement. And it was quite condescending to be quite honest. Two presidents of Lenskinian officers copy explicit pre training permission of his boss.
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Unknown C
And yet Tyson Silency says that his relations with the United States can still be repaired as hard as sensational management at this moment. How Vital is it for the transatlantic relationship that Ukraine and the US is.
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Unknown B
In Ukraine as the Peter killed types.
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Unknown D
It's absolutely essential. The Ukrainians war effort is completely dependent on the production of material and economic support from the United States. There are still a number of alliance efforts. Some have been paused as we saw emergency energy systems.
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Unknown B
Do you think some EU countries will or shift cancel weapons deals with the US in future? Days and weeks maybe. Yeah, hopefully to make. I think if Europe is going to move. Listen to me, Europe, okay, is the American whisperer. If Europe is going to make moves to punish the United States for Trump's actions, it has to be as soon as fucking possible. Because if you drag your fucking feet on it and if you wait for years and in three or four years you finally start to do it, people aren't going to feel the effects during Trump's administration. It can't be this kicking and dragging and whatever and waiting and, you know, whatever in two or three years, like, okay, we got to get serious about this. Like, there needs to be a strong message right now. Like it has to happen very soon, you know.
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Unknown B
Yeah, I saw that Norway is refusing to refill our shit. I think there should also be a huge boycott of everything having to do with like Tesla. And I think people should boycott the out of that. Although I guess it's hard because if you already have a car, I mean, if you have a Tesla, you can trade it anyway. You're probably wealthy enough to do it. Do you think that the average American cares about the suffering and deaths over there? Like, is this a possible attack in the midterms or will it just not matter? I think that, I think in a way Ukraine doesn't really matter at all to people in the United States. And I think in another way it's like the most important thing to people in the United States. I think that the actual factual matters of things don't matter. Nobody really cares.
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Unknown B
Nobody knows what's going on. But the story and the narrative of what America is or what America should be or what America represents to the world, I think Americans do care about that. But again, the issue is that the concept of America has taken such a beating. It was basically, as much as I could say it was only the neocons that were holding up this concept of America being a good country. And it was like the left that was like, well, no slavery and Christopher Columbus was a bad guy and we fucked over the natives and America's racist and evil, blah, blah, blah, okay, well, you know, America, the neocons are there to center for a business in America and the left deserver pushes forward socially and you know, holds kind of White House whatever. But now that the right doesn't like this country and like America big business, the left is not ready to pick up that banner.
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Unknown B
Even though Kamal kind of tried and being more positive about the United States, I just the feeling isn't. Doesn't feel genuine or authentic there yet. So was paused yesterday.
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Unknown D
The provision of future weapons consideration should be paused. This would have an extremely military effect on Ukraine's war effort. But I have to say, and this is where Zelensky has unique brand leadership in the man, has stared at the face and has a spring steel that they are not going to do anything, everything to win the support. What the Trump administration has done in this case, when President Trump says basically you are now in an asymmetrical weak and negotiation position, you are not in a position to ask for concessions in any kind of ceasefire.
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Unknown B
Do you just reject the idea of the mineral rights leading to this administration's desire for security? Ukraine, I don't think mineral rights are big deal at all. Just some random retarded negotiation trip that I can use to bargain for whatever. I don't think it matters that much. And it's not like there are that many. Like Ukraine doesn't even have that much in terms of exploitable resources for how much Trump seems to make a big deal out of it. It's just not.
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Unknown D
You are not in position to ask for concessions in any kind of ceasefire. And that seems to indicate that Trump is biasing himself in any peace negotiations on the side of Vladimir Putin. And that is obviously very worrying for not only Ukraine, but also Ukraine. Ukraine allies who cannot enforce in the media yesterday after that to reaffirm their support for Ukraine.
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Unknown C
Ukraine didn't have the cards to play. It didn't feel like he was also talking to Europe. Does Europe have any cards to play? How does Europe arm itself with those cards to apply these investigations?
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Unknown D
Well, Ukraine's future and the beginning of this conflict, which started actually in 2014, was all about the movement of Ukraine geopolitically from Russia's orbit to Ukrainian support.
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Unknown B
Why does Israel Palestine conflict matter more to Americans in Ukraine? Older Americans have a very favorable view of Israel. I don't think Ukraine is the same. Most people, older people were just out as part of the former Soviet Union and then some country that had a lot of corruption issues, which it did for a long time. So we don't have that same attachment to Ukraine or the people of Ukraine or religiously to Ukraine like we do with Israel.
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Unknown D
And in fact, if you remember the Maidan revolution, it was EU flags that the Ukrainians were waving on my dad. The European Union continues with UK and others continue to be the biggest provider of assistance for Ukraine economics. But without the United States being a co pillar in that that we have locked for Europe, Japan, Canada and UK compensate. So the question is, do they have it within their stocks financially and also militarily to start trying to make that up? I think that there's thinking about that. You see that with statement after the election. But it's going to happen on an extremely accelerated timetable.
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Unknown C
Foreign policy experts and great video input, thanks so much.
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Unknown D
Thank you.
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Unknown B
Thank you. Do you think the marital deal has more to do with Trump needing to be seen as a win? Like it's something to accept. Pure robbery. Since all the publicly in about this, I just don't know. I think Trump is just trying to attract as much from any situation ever. Like don't let a good crisis go to waste like that saying, except on steroids. I think that's just what it feels like. My co workers are all three flavors of Trump's supporters. I went really hard on them before the election. Do you think I should change tact and try to be softer? I waffle back and forth for people in your personal life, you should always be soft unless you don't care about their being. You never change somebody's mind in real life by being like super brutal. You always have to just have to be soft.
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Unknown B
Ask questions, poke and prod like very gently and try to appeal to their values. Like, oh, when you voted for Trump, do you think you would have said this about Zelensky or do you think it's a good thing? Like should America play a role here or do we feel like Russia's money? Or I don't know, you have to be gentle. Oh, Christinath.
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Unknown C
This is a lovely house. It's Christinath. Are you stupid or are you deaf? Christina, you idiot.
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Unknown B
You come to our house, you get.
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Unknown C
My wife's name right.
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Unknown B
Christina, I knew that movie was this okay, Vice President. Why Harry, you're a big social media guy. What's going on here? Why can I only my left here ear hear? This was criticizing Zelensky for not saying thank you specifically during that, that meeting, those 40 to 50 minutes that we were in the Oval Office. But certainly you know very well, Secretary Rubio, your time as a senator here in Washington, that whenever Zelensky has come to Washington before, he has Very much expressed that kind of grat attitude. Just. Just listen to this. Thank you for both financial packages. You have already provided us.
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Unknown D
Really all my appreciations from my heart, from the heart of Ukraine.
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Unknown B
So what can I say to American people in English? My English is cooler to say all. All my messages and all my thanks to you and thank you very much for supporting us, our people. Thank you, United States. Thank you, America. Ukraine is grateful to the United States for its overwhelming support. Do you think you can make the argument that he hasn't said thank you?
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Unknown C
Well, I think the vice president said he hadn't said it today, he hadn't heard it today in that meeting. And we were hoping that that meeting would begin by thank you for everything you've done for us. We wouldn't be where we are today without you. We wouldn't have a chance.
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Unknown D
Please like to say something.
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Unknown C
No.
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Unknown B
Thanks so much, Mr. President. Oh my God, he said it. There you go. That's. We got. Okay. That took way longer than I thought. I thought it was only like 30 seconds.
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Unknown C
Me Chancellor, that meeting would begin by thank you for everything you've done for us. We wouldn't be where we are today without you. We wouldn't have a chance to negotiate a piece without the help you gave us, by the way.
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Unknown B
But also I'm pretty sure almost this verbatim. We wouldn't have a chance without whether you're suppressed for. I think you said that verbatim like it's weird. It's quoting Delinsky and that without the.
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Unknown C
Help you gave us when you were president in the first term because President Obama refused to provide them defensive capabilities in terms of.
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Unknown B
I don't think that's true, but. Okay.
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Unknown C
Ah, any politics here? If you're just here for the peach reviews, keep it moving. But I had to do, I had to talk about this, this meeting with Zelinsky, Trump, J.D. vance, the White House. I posted on my ex. My Twitter, Yes. I said the most surreal thing I've ever seen in politics. Felt like I was watching Bravo tv. Just fascinating to see world leaders basically arguing with each other with honestly, the fate of like World War three in the world kind of in the balance in some respects. Now, before I get into it, that was just like the last five, ten minutes they're arguing a vote. I guess it was like an hour, hour and 15 minute meeting. That was civil and friendly right up to the end. So it wasn't like Trump sat down, is like, wanted to be like gotcha and fight on cameras.
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Unknown C
That wasn't the plan. Now, having said all that, there's been two reactions to this meeting and they both depend on whether they're pro Trump or anti Trump. If you're anti Trump, you're basically saying this is the worst day in history of America. We're basically the same as Russian dictator and Putin and evil bullies, as usual. I feel like it's a real rare area. Is this idea like, is it morality issues? There's safety issues involved for me. Listen, I get Zelensky's country has invaded his troops, his country and dying. Their country has been ravaged by Putin Russia. I yell at that. So it's hard to be like, how do you act like this or not having a bridge to action with Ukraine. What's going on?
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Unknown B
Why do people have the. I already know he's going. I shouldn't. Maybe he won't go there. No, he is going. I know he's going there. Everybody has a super cocked position. Like, I get this bro, but realistically, what's going to happen? Like you what do you mean with the United States of America? Like, that's never been an excuse for us before. Reality is not supposed to be what America has to bow down to and passively accept from the rest of the world, especially from losers like Putin. Why would we ever do do that? It should be the other side. It should be Putin that has to go on Russian state media and say, listen, we were doing well in the war. Like we should have won it. We should have had everything. But I mean, like, the reality is it's the usa what you want us to do, it's NATO.
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Unknown B
Like, these guys are like two generations ahead of us on planes because we lied about where we thought our tech was at. Like, we can't do all. Like, it's like, it's not fair, but it is what it is. Why are we the ones making that statement? If you want to be involved, then just get the out of the negotiations. I don't know why Putin and Trump need to go have their own little two person stuff fested Riyadh. I don't know why you have to do that. Just get the out. You're not gonna go negotiating. Like, imagine you're getting your ass whipped by some bully who's like, you know, four years older than you, who's held back. He's like 100 pounds higher than you. You're some like third grader getting by like 18 year old. And you finally bring a teacher along. He's like, teacher, thank you.
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Unknown B
And the teacher's there. He's like, yeah, wow, that dude's whipping your ass. And I see that that's happening. And yeah, damn. Like, yeah, the NAS weapon. Good luck, man. Like, what's the point of you guys even being involved in this? We're here to help Ukraine unilaterally, like unconditionally surrender. We have a security guarantee. Why we negotiate at all. I just hate this cock position. What are you going to do? What are you going to do with the US Of A? What do you mean what are we going to do? A billion different things.
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Unknown C
But having said all that, I'm on Trump's side more than on Zelensky side here. This previous administration, Biden has sat, beat their chest, warn, threaten Russia, Putin, Paul McDict, all things Zelensky says. And what does that promise? Hundreds of billions of dollars given to Ukraine and really no closer ending this war seems like it could go on forever with us putting the bill. I mean, again, the records say anywhere between 2, 300 billion dollars a week.
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Unknown B
Which records? Oh, those are just Trump's empty statements that other war leaders like the crown of literally corrected him on. But okay, give him a defense equal.
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Unknown C
To more than all of Europe. You have a new administration coming in and clearly what the old administration had done did not help end this conflict at all. And Zelensky shows up at the White House and he gives everyone a promise. He takes signs of disrespect personally. He's very much about, you know, respecting other things. So Zelensky shows up and he's wearing his sweatshirt and his customary outfit, which is his way of essentially saying, like, I'm not a warm, I don't play politics or any stuff. Trump's reporters approach. Trump is like, why don't you throw on a suit? And Zelensky, I'll throw on your, like your outfit, your costume once the war is over. For me, this is, this is just stupid vice zealously like we get here at war, but you're coming to me in the new administration and it's just a sign of respect not to show the same level of respect to the Olaf as Trump.
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Unknown B
Like, first of all, were they even in the Oval Office that I don't know how big the Oval Office is. Pretty sure Elon has been in the Oval Office without wearing a suit all the fucking time. Like, hello, why do we not care about him? And he's not even at war, except maybe the war of his own mind. Okay, we're using a lot of fucking.
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Unknown C
Academy what clearly thinks it deserves Trump. It's like we're in a butt head. I'm not gonna be sure. Thank you for billions and billions and billions of dollars that the United States me off to about a Trump. And then when you're in the meeting, he's just hard headed and cutting Trump a band off. And again, it's not even what you.
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Unknown B
Would plead, cutting Trump off. Fucking JD Vance would lay into this dude for four minutes as long as he would start to respond for three seconds and then all of a sudden Trump would cut him off. Come on. Are you serious?
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Unknown C
Because the country's been through Helen back. But it's like they need the United States. They should show some deference to or thank you to the American taxpayers. We don't have to continually put this bill. So like the antagonistic Tony.
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Unknown B
Okay, but it's different. Zelensky's wearing the fatigues for political purpose to begin with. Elon's just lumpy and autistic. Elon is not autistic. Elon does not have autism. He's just a fucking loser. I don't know where this Elon's autistic thing comes from. He's not. He's a fucking loser. Like look at the way he interacts with people, the way he texts people. Look at the actions that he takes. But it's not just autism when you can't dress yourself. That's so fucking retorted. Unless Elon was actually legitimately like showing video footage of him while n out and beating the shit out of people because he can't control his body. Like that level of autism. An autistic person knows how to get dressed. And he's the richest man in the world to pay somebody to tell him how to dress. He doesn't want to wear it.
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Unknown C
I don't give a fuck.
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Unknown B
I'm not on convention like that. That's fine. Don't sit here and act all high and mighty because fucking a dude who's single handedly leading his country through annihilation. Okay. Against a nuclear power, one of the superpowers of the world, okay. Decides to show up where he feels out inappropriate. This is stupid.
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Unknown C
He tastes with it. And even more so like I respect or understand Trump not wanting to build Biden. The last administration did every single chance to get out of nowhere. Trump made it very clear he wants the policy. He wants to end the death. He wants to end this war. Zelensky is just Putin's the devil. Putin's a killer. Putin's death, Putin. What good is it for Trump to echo those statements? The past president did it goes nowhere. If the United States is gonna do what everything needs and wants to be done, get a peace agreement, a ceasefire that Putin actually respects. Nay, Putin will be more likely respected. Honor. If you want to touch your president, constantly calling him a killer and genocide and all the stuff.
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Unknown B
Elon literally admitted he has Asperger's on his cell like four years ago. That's great. First of all, Asperger's in technically this on autism disorder. Secondly, Asperger's like the latest form of autism. Autism having. Being an Aspie having Asperger's doesn't mean that you don't know what dress is appropriate. Right? They're not. It's not a severely learning disabled person. I don't want to say with down syndrome. I'm pretty sure a person with down syndrome would know, like when it's appropriate to dress in certain ways or not. Somebody doesn't know how to put clothes on or doesn't know what is appropriate to wear. This is like a low functioning autistic person that needs 247 care because they can't walk downstairs without throwing themselves down to death. Okay. Like Jesus.
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Unknown C
Relationship with anyone. Trumps it down. Tries to broker a deal with Ukraine and Russia. We get a deal done, but it does no good if they just can both sit there like. So I get Trump inside it. He's like on the other side. So I think Zelensky. And again, this doesn't take away what the Ukrainian people have gone through and how awful this invaded. But show some deference and some willingness to get. Willingness to deal together and shows some respect for Trump and office. And this is the American people elected. Rather than coming in trying to be like, it's my way of the highway. Which is the vibe I got from Zelensky. Like, you're going to have to move a little bit, a lot of it. And hopefully Putin will move a bit and we get a deal that the old administration done did not work.
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Unknown C
And what good is giving hundreds of billions of dollars in aid if we're going to be in the same spot another four years? Like, was it endless payback? Was that the United States?
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Unknown B
Wait, what is this?
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Unknown D
What is all this?
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Unknown C
What?
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Unknown B
Hello? Did he just recently develop autism? Deep fake AI pictures. What's going on here? Is this a tuxedo? What's going. How does he really makes you think, huh?
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Unknown C
Thanks, though I don't have the answers. But I think Trump and fans handled this as well as they could. Like, we're not gonna just get steamrolled by Zelinski at the expense of getting a deal done. And if that means we have to throw a couple flowers of Putin, so be it.
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Unknown B
Oh, God. Is this gonna be an opposite? A tweet or that's undecorted?
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Unknown C
I hated this. And I post maps on Discord. I hated this because it's like, yeah, they get this midget to stand next to Trump and act like a little beta male, and they bitch him around. And JD Vance farms the clip, bullying him like, yeah, what the fuck? Why are we giving you so much money? And then when Netanyahu's there the week prior.
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Unknown B
Oh, fuck. It's like, he's going to take a dang. But Zelensky. But it's through the lens of his hatred of Israel. Do we take it?
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Unknown C
Everyone is. Mr. President, sir, Mr. Netanyahu pushing in the chair. And they're all tweeting like, yeah, you f. Ing. This is America.
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Unknown B
We're the boss.
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Unknown C
You're not giving you money. Did you forget Zelensky was an actor? Literally, he was paid to be on stage. Trump was a reality television pioneer. This is all theater. They agreed beforehand. Okay, we're going to Zelensky around on camera. Oh, just a debate that happened to be live. They set up this. You think Netanyahu would ever let himself get bitched on camera like that? No, because he's in charge of America. They do this Zelensky to get everybody back on the side to make us forget that we're giving all the tax dollars away to countries that we don't care about or need. That's the annoying part. I was like, yeah, tell that Zelensky.
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Unknown B
That we're not giving him nothing.
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Unknown C
Keep the same energy next time. God damn.
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Unknown B
Good one. It's sad because I like Portnoy in a lot of ways. I just don't. It's like the Joe Roganification of everything that, like every pot. I don't know, everybody has to have strong opinions on every complex foreign policy issue.