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  • Unknown A
    I also just want to again recognize and honor the sex worker committee.
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  • Unknown B
    More Oscar nominations are equal to Gone with a win. It's terrible. It's a terrible movie that didn't even deserve to be nominated for one.
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  • Unknown C
    Sex work is something in which a person has agency and choice.
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  • Unknown D
    It's like A Pretty Woman was sponsored by Oliva.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah, it was fair.
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  • Unknown F
    You ruin it like this. It just comes in. Clarissa.
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  • Unknown E
    Where was Shirley? Betty written her out, you know. Well, last year, thanks to Barbie and Oppenheimer, the Oscars were labeled the year of the blockbuster. This year's theme might be apparently massive movies most of us haven't seen. Nominations were led by the Brutalist, a substance, Emilio Perez, a real pain and Nora and the Complete Unknown. Well, most of the book a bit unknown, not just to me, but to most people, I would imagine. As a result, some are calling it the most niche and indeed in the end, the dullest Oscar ceremony the there's ever been. Where's Will Smith when you need him? So has Hollywood given up on crowd pleasing or is it our fault for not being culturally sophisticated enough? Here to give us their vote on Hollywood's big night. Author and movie Critic Will Jordan, aka the Critical Trigger on the Nerdrotic YouTube channel.
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  • Unknown E
    Gary Beechler, uncensored contributor to Esther Krakow and the author of the Case of Cancel Culture, Nist Owens. And welcome to all of you. All right, let me start with you, Nadrotic, if I may. God, it seems so bloody boring this year, right? No one did anything. It was so. The most exciting thing was old Adrian Brody passing his chewing gum to Harvey Weinstein's ex wife who he's now with.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah, that was a good catch, by the way.
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  • Unknown E
    Very good catch.
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  • Unknown B
    Tossing it. I mean, I would have put it. I would put it under my eye.
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  • Unknown E
    We've got a clip, I think. Let's have a look at that. Let's see Adrian Brody tossing the gun. I'm gonna say if I tried that stunt with my wife, she'd have gone absolutely ballistic. I hate to have the fact this is kind of one of the first big public outings of this couple where you've got this incredible actor and you've got the ex wife of Harvey Weinstein and obviously no shame on her for what the beast of her husband did, but it's still a bloody random thing, isn't it? To see it play out in the front row of an Oscars event and.
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  • Unknown B
    Especially catch a piece of gum being thrown out. That was extremely weird. But the show itself, you could tell A memo came down to refrain from anything overtly political outside of, I would say, three instances. This was bland as it gets and they needed to do that. Conan O'Brien has been the best host of a very bland.
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  • Unknown E
    I thought he was great because, you know, Conan's a bit like the old school, going back to Johnny Carlson, Jay Leno. These guys, they didn't play party politics. They didn't take a side. You know, they gently whack politicians, but on both sides. And what I liked last night was it wasn't a big political fest.
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  • Unknown B
    No, it wasn't. It was a snore fest for the most part. And most of these movies, as you said, nobody's seen Notice the best Picture winner was made for $6 million, which is great. That's great for independent film. That's roughly Harrison Ford's weed budget on Captain America 4.
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  • Unknown E
    And it won Best Picture because I just have a feeling like this, like you want the Oscar winning movies because people have actually seen, don't you?
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  • Unknown B
    Yes, you do and I don't. I think there was a. There's a double message here because they really wanted an order, a true independent film and they really wanted that to win because they need to, they need to reinvigorate the independent film. That's their minor leagues. And it's been, thanks to streaming, it's been destroyed. But for viewership, I don't know what that ratings are going to be. I'm guessing pretty low. Nothing really happened. We were praying for a slap like you at some point overall. And listen, the biggest nub was Demi Moore. I'm just gonna come out.
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  • Unknown E
    I was actually. You know what? I actually hate it when you have a legend who's never won an Oscar and throughout the awards process, a critical drinker. I'll bring you in here when you're on a journey that looks like it's an unstoppable pathway to finally getting that Oscar which you've coveted your entire life. And Demi Moore's done some great films. I will never hear anyone tell me that one of the great movies is not GI Jane, for example, cruelly overlooked by the Academy. But I did feel fun. She couldn't contain her real sadness at missing out. She probably thinks, well, that'll be it then. That's my last chance.
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  • Unknown F
    I think so to some extent. And it would've been nice to see a movie like the substance that did get quite a lot of commercial attention and was widely known for her to get Best Actress. I think that would've been a great Recogn not just her work on this film, which was fantastic, but also just a lifetime achievement award almost because she has had an epic career that spanned absolutely decades. And I agree with you, GI Jane was a really good movie.
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  • Unknown E
    Brilliant. I liked it. Extortively Think About Nora, which won five awards. Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress among them. It's an R rated romantic comedy about a lovable lap dancing prostitute. Also one of her rich Russian clients. Lashings of nudity. Well, lashings of nudity, sex, the F word is used 479 times more than Goodfellas, Straight Outta Compton and Pulp Fiction. Esther. I mean, the one thing I've loved about this movie is it's such a refreshing antidote to the squeaky clean bullshit. We've been fed up for so long. I mean, it looks like we're back to very inappropriate stuff.
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  • Unknown D
    Hurrah. It's like A Pretty Woman was sponsored by OnlyFans. It was X rated. I mean, the plot was, you know, I feel like this is something that's probably happened in the West End. Some prostitute from Lancashire falls for her, you know, Russian sponsor or whatever. So the plot wasn't anything new. But yeah, I mean, look, lifetime. But it can also push it to the extreme. And I like the fact that this was something a little bit different.
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  • Unknown E
    Was it weird?
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  • Unknown D
    Was it weird even though it was really just a porn film?
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  • Unknown E
    Well, that's the thing. It was like refreshingly inappropriate for an Oscar winner. But Mikey Madison, who won the best actress, made a speech. It's quite interesting. And I'll get your take on Ms. Esther about the need to recognize and honor the sex work communities. Take a look at this clip.
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  • Unknown A
    I also just want to again recognize and honor the sex worker community. I will, I will continue to support and be an ally. All of the incredible people, the women that I've had the privilege of meeting from that community has been one of the highlights of this incredible, of this entire incredible experience.
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  • Unknown E
    I mean, to put my prudish cap on Esther, why do we actually feel the need to recognize and honor the sex worker community out of interest?
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  • Unknown D
    Because we've been collectively lobotomized. The people that can sit there and glorify sex work don't have any actual clue of what basically renting out your orifices in your body is like. For 99% of women that are sex workers, they're being pimped out by a bunch of misogynists and treated like holes for hire. You know, the kinds of prostitutes in the west that seem to have it good. Have police officers that actually take them seriously when they say they've been assaulted or, you know, they haven't been pimped out from the young age. I happen to pole dance for sport and fun, and I know loads of pole dancers that say, oh, sex work is real work. No, actually, you're just an online prostitute. You've never actually been pimped out to a man and treated like a collective holes to pay for.
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  • Unknown E
    Ernest. Ernesto, why are you shaking your head?
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  • Unknown D
    It's opportunistic, and you have to be a man to see it this way. Because if you are actually a woman thinking there's something respectable or even desirable about sex work, you're just completely missing reality.
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  • Unknown E
    It's horrible. Ernest seems to be missing that reality. Ernest.
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  • Unknown C
    No, I think that there's levels, right? There's levels to it. And I think that there are. You know, what you're talking about in many ways, is human trafficking and exploitation.
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  • Unknown D
    That's how much of sex works. I hate to break.
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  • Unknown C
    To be clear, sex work in the way in which is being talked about in Anora and for others, is something in which a person has agency and choice. If you're in a situation where you're being exploited without agency, without choice, that is not sex work. And I think there, I can tell.
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  • Unknown D
    You, the overwhelming majority of women do not choose to do that. But this is the thing. Here's the thing. As a woman who knows other women, the overwhelming majority of women do not want their bodies to be treated as halls for hire. I know this may sound crazy to men that think, oh, so long as we paid. But I'm telling you, the lines are very blurred.
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  • Unknown E
    Regardless of what you think of the. Of the industry, you both obviously got different views about it. Regardless of that, is the Oscars an appropriate given is watched by a lot of families and young people. You know, it aired early in the evening. Is it appropriate to be making a big point of honoring the sex worker community in that way?
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  • Unknown D
    That's if they're curing a lot of.
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  • Unknown C
    People that are having critiques about what it is. And I mean, people give their acceptance speeches on various topics. I mean, one could argue that the Departed was a very violent, grotesque movie by Martin Scorsese, and many of his films have been celebrated, honored, and nominated by the Academy.
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  • Unknown E
    I didn't hear people stand there and say, I'd like to honor the gangster community.
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  • Unknown C
    Well, no, but there is.
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  • Unknown E
    Literally about the gangster community. There's no comparison.
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  • Unknown C
    Anora is a celebration of that, of that work and so, by the way.
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  • Unknown D
    Men who don't understand it, that's why they're celebrating it. You know the biggest opponents to sex work? Do you know the biggest opponents to sex work? Actual feminists that have actually had to deal with women that have been in this trade that don't have the glamour. I mean, to the point where many of them can't even access medication for sexual work.
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  • Unknown E
    I have a lot of sympathy for sex workers. Right, to be clear. And I certainly wouldn't want them to be demonized or to be vilified at the Oscars. It just seems to me a bit of a leap to then make a big point of, hey, look, we've got the global televised event and we're going to. We feel this need, as she put it, to recognize and honor that community. I found that a bit of a leap too far. Let me bring Nadronic in here about a joke that Conan O'Brien made about Carla Sophia Gascon, and she's the transgender actress. She was nominated for Best Actress despite obviously being born a biological man and was favourite to win until a bunch of tweets came out which made her out to be a pretty unpleasant piece of work. Islamophobic, racist homophobia was in. It was the full nine yards. Let's see what Conan said about Carla.
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  • Unknown G
    Gascon is here tonight and.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  • Unknown G
    And Carla, if you are gonna tweet about the Oscars, remember my name is Jimmy Kimme.
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  • Unknown E
    I love Conan. I've done his show a few times in the past. He's such a cool guy. He should have been the all time, great late time guy, actually. And he got cruelly stitched up. It's a brutal world, that Lena War. But the jolly. What struck me as fascinating is two things. One, imagine if Carla Sofia Gaskell had won Best Actress with all the raging debate about, say, trans athletes, which Trump has banned and so on. This whole thing of trans women taking jobs, accolades, awards, records from actual biological women, I think that would have massively intensified this debate if you'd had an actual transgender winner of Best Actress. What do you think of that? First of all, before we get to the tweets.
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  • Unknown B
    Oh, before we get to the tweets. I think that's what everybody was looking for until Carla Sophia Gascon torpedoed his own career. By the way, I watched the movie. He plays a guy for the first third of the movie, then he plays a woman. He was up for Best Actress. It would have been a joke. It would have been the ultimate joke. And shown that Oscars aren't taken seriously. The world isn't taken seriously. Nobody, nobody wants to see this again. I saw the movie. It's terrible. It's a terrible movie that didn't even deserve to be nominated for one, much less more. More Oscar nominations are equal to Gone with the Win and a couple of more than a couple of Lord of the Rings movies. It was a total virtue signal, and my conspirator told my conspiratorial mind beers is that they might have discovered that the culture had shift and they found a way to get out of that.
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  • Unknown B
    I think Sophia should have backed out and allowed a woman to be up for Best Actress.
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  • Unknown E
    But also the other thing is, what was she doing at the ceremony? She, he, or whatever you want to call Carla. I think people can use any pronouns. I don't really know what to call transgender people anymore because I feel so strongly about the erosion of women's rights that's been going on that it feels almost a contradictory thing to then refer to them with female pronouns. However, if that's what they want to be called, to me, it's a lesser issue than the reality of them infringing on women's rights. So let me come to this issue of the tweets, because it seems to me, Critical Drinker, that if you'd had a say, for example, a Republican supporting male white actor who'd come out with a bunch of racist tweets which emerged, that person would not be sitting there near the front of the audience at the Oscars.
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  • Unknown E
    Right? Ernest, Last time I checked, you weren't called Critical Drinker. Critical Drinker. I don't think that person would be sitting there, would they?
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  • Unknown F
    They absolutely wouldn't know. And we've seen this happen before with many actors that have been cancelled because of things that they've said in the past, like something as simple as an offhand joke that was perhaps acceptable 10 years ago, isn't now. James Gunn, for example, he made some slightly off color tweets, shall we say, back in the day, and that set his career back for years. He was fired from Marvel, had to completely reunited.
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  • Unknown E
    I defended him in a con, but I was one of the very few that did.
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  • Unknown F
    Yeah, but that's an example. Like if he had been perhaps a bit more diverse or ticked a few more boxes, I'm willing to bet that would not have happened to him in the slightest.
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  • Unknown E
    So, Ernest, Ernest, two things. Would you have been happy for a transgender actor to win Best Actress at the expense of an actual woman? First, would you have Been happy for that. I just.
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  • Unknown C
    I don't agree with your premise. I think that a trans actress is an actress and they're in the respect, equality, and category. But I want to address the major point.
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  • Unknown E
    So you wouldn't have minded if a transgender actress had one.
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  • Unknown C
    Best Actress. Mel Gibson is the person that you all skipped over. Mel Gibson had lots of anti Semitic, racist remarks and tweets and still got nominated for an Oscar, to which he was able to show up to the Academy Awards, and he was still nominated for an Oscar in the 2010s. Woody Allen has been, quote, unquote, canceled and criticized for years and still receive Oscar nominations as well. Quentin Tarantino has made various problematic.
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  • Unknown E
    To be fair to you, Ernest, I don't often agree with you, Ernest. To be fair. I mean, Roman Polanski, lest we forget, Roman Polanski got a standing ovation led by Meryl Streep after he fled America after he had raped an underage girl.
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  • Unknown D
    I think this is the issue. I think the fight back of let's cancel these people because they cancel other people in the past or they refuse to cancel it is not helpful. I think the biggest candle here is the fact that Emilia Perez is simply unwatchable. I mean, I think we should be actually questioning whether the Academy have functioning eyes that they nominated this dumpster fire, which, I mean, listen, I'm all for artistic license and, you know, putting out films that people may not agree with. You know, the answer is by expression. This film was unwatchable. I think that's the bigger issue. It was so bad that I don't even know. I don't care if the nominee was a transgender woman or, like, a tree trunk, These kind of films shouldn't be up for Oscars. I'm sorry. It's offensive. It's offensive.
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  • Unknown E
    It did feel. I mean, to be fair, it did feel like karma, didn't it? That Hollywood as a community were pushing this pretty crap movie by all accounts, because it featured a transgender actor who might win Best Actress. And for them, that ticked every possible box other than the one that's being ticked right now by the White House, who are trying to defend women's rights. And then it turns out that this actor, actress, whatever you want to call Carla Gascoigne, had a history of appallingly offensive tweets in which she basically insulted absolutely everybody. I mean, there was a karma there, wasn't there?
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  • Unknown C
    I mean, I think that what happens in any situation is that when anybody is on either side playing into any type of identity Politics that are not genuine and sincere virtue signaling when it's not sincere, it can lead to that. I mean, we've seen good films that have had queer narratives do way better. I think A Moonlight, which was an incredible film that had incredible acting that was worthy when it won best picture.
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  • Unknown E
    Over La La Land.
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  • Unknown C
    But this movie was not good, regardless of how you feel about trans people, whatever. It just was not a good film.
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  • Unknown D
    La Land was also another terrible film, by the way.
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  • Unknown E
    LA was great. La Land was fantastic. The music, I often play the. The soundtrack when I'm by my pool.
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  • Unknown D
    You may call me a musical hater. However I do, I am. I am unapologetic president of the musical hater cup.
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  • Unknown E
    Let me play clip. This is the only one that really from going straight towards a political jazz. He didn't actually name Trump, but he said this.
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  • Unknown G
    You know, Anora is having a good night.
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  • Unknown F
    Yeah, that's great.
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  • Unknown G
    Yeah, that's great news. Two wins already. I guess Americans are excited to see somebody finally stand up to a powerful Russian.
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  • Unknown E
    You know what enjoyed it was a kind of gentle little riptic at Trump. He didn't even name Trump. He got the cheer. Because of course, Hollywood wanted it to be a slathering Trump bashing event, but it never morphed into that. Which given all that's been going on in the last few weeks, was pretty miraculous. Is this because they got the memo that more than half of America voted for Trump again this time around? And actually Trump bashing ain't that popular with the ones who did.
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  • Unknown B
    It's not popular at all. As a matter of fact, a lot of people are very happy the way things are going on in this country right now. I would dare say a majority. And that's why Hollywood did indeed get the memo. I thought there was gonna be Ukraine flags everywhere. And to get just one passing mention right before they announced Mark Hamill coming on stage. By the way, that was right before. And like I was doing the Watch Party and I'm like, man, this has been really tame. They haven't made any political statements. And then he said that right afterwards. Which I'm like, ah. But honestly, I just kind of considering the whole of the show. Three, four hour show. It was one of three things and it was kind of expected at that point. But I didn't think it was that controversial.
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  • Unknown E
    No, no. I thought Conan generally was brilliant, actually. I was happy to see him do it many more times. Critical trigger. It's brilliant. Morgan Freeman paid a very nice, heartfelt tribute to Gene Hackman. Let's take a look at that first.
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  • Unknown H
    He received two Oscars. But more importantly, he won the hearts of film lovers all over the world. Gene always said, I don't think about legacy. I just hope people remember me as someone who tried to do good work. So I think I speak for us all when I say, Gene, you'll be remembered for that and for so much more.
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  • Unknown E
    First of all, quick. I mean, a Gene Hackman will come to his stature as an actor. I just remember thinking when I heard about his death, I couldn't remember a bad movie starring Gene Hack. I mean, almost. He made over 80. I'm sure there are.
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  • Unknown F
    I mean, behind Eddie Lane's Wasn't great, man, I'm not gonna lie.
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  • Unknown E
    I love that film. Oh, no, no, you've gone too early. But before we get to his body of work, which is incredible, the circumstances of his death are so weird. You know, someone said, what do you think happened? I said, well, from everything I'm seeing, reading, picking up with my sort of journalist head on, it looks to me like maybe something happened to Gene Hackman. He may have had a heart attack or something. Then his wife, who was way younger, only in her early 60s, a load of pills found in the bathroom. Did she maybe take her own life because she couldn't do a life without him. And then there are three German shepherd dogs, two of whom lived, one of whom was stuck in a closet. Maybe the dog got stuck in a closet and wasn't able to be fed or watered for the nine days before discovery just died that way.
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  • Unknown E
    Is that your most likely theory for what happened here?
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  • Unknown F
    I think so. It seems like the most plausible chain of events, as tragic as it is. And the fact that it was nine days before someone checked on them, I think is equally disturbing and, you know, tragic, really, that they didn't have more attention given to them, you know, and we all knew this was gonna happen, that, you know, Gene would pass away. He was 95 years old. He'd retired 20 years previously. It's always sad when it happens, and it's particularly tragic in this case that it seems to have, you know, taken another person's life who was much younger and chose to end it. That seems to be the.
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  • Unknown E
    If they are. We don't. We don't obviously know. We just seem to.
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  • Unknown F
    We don't know. It's speculation.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah, but. Okay, let's turn to Gene Hatman, the actor Chronicle Drago. I'll start with you, since I'm talking to you about him. I mean, there were some Unforgiven, Mississippi Burning, the French Connection, Crimson Tide, the Conversation, Lex Luthor in Superman. He had some amazing movies, some amazing roles in the pantheon of actors. Where does he rank?
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  • Unknown F
    He is going to be up there with the likes of Clint Eastwood. That generation of actors, I don't think we're ever going to see the like of them again. Sadly, men who were brought up in a very different time in Hollywood, a different time in American history and it forged them into much more interesting characters than perhaps we see today. And it's, it's. We are really losing part of our cultural heritage when we lose that generation. And sadly, it's almost there now. They are very old now. And yeah, I think Gene Hackman absolutely should rank up there with some of the greatest Hollywood movies.
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  • Unknown E
    What was your favorite Jane Hatman movie.
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  • Unknown F
    So much like yourself? I think Unforgiven was absolutely fantastic movie. He gave us a superb, honest, raw performance in that. I think my favorite might actually be a movie called Bat 21. It's a Vietnam movie. He's a pilot who gets shot down and he has to try and hike his way out to safety. And he's talked over the radio by a pilot who's helping him out. Jean gives such a superb every man performance in that he is a man who's up against it. He's completely unprepared for this. And he's witnessing the real heroin experience of war right on the ground firsthand. He's always been flying at 40,000ft, just observing things from a distance. And this is a much different experience for him and he absolutely brings it through that movie. So I think that might be one of my favorite performances of his ever.
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  • Unknown E
    Esther, you are obviously way too young remembered an active Jing Hatman actor. But I mean, we all have watched his movies.
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  • Unknown D
    What did you think of him? I mean, I think one of the things you've just said about him, his generation of actors dying and the kind of masculine, really traditionally masculine role, human body. I think one of the things I think is really sad is that many men today, I suspect wouldn't be able to identify with the kind of actor and the roles that he played, which is why it feels like a loss that is dying off. I mean, the reason why he was so popular is because he resonated with the men of his generation. Most men now can't imagine not smitting the bill on a 40 pound Nando's bill and going to war and, you know, facing the kinds of real threats that previous generations had. And so I think it's more of a kind of, you know, a synopsis of the cultural moment.
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  • Unknown E
    I felt that I can't remember. I mean, Jack Nicholson was at some awards show in the last week and that really, to see him looking pretty infirm now. It was great to see him, but I used to see him at the LA Lakers. He was always courtside there. And you catch him. Haven't seen him for a while. I know he's been pretty unwell. But people like Jack Nicholson, to me, the greatest perhaps of all of them, they're all reaching that age up. Nicholton, Eastwood, you know, Gene Hackman, Jack Nicholson. It's a sad collection of guys that aren't that you can't really point to the equivalent these days. We have to be. Chalamet, the male lead has changed. I don't know, maybe young people prefer that. I'm sure that Ernest, you will. But these rugged old guys who are seducing women, chain smoking, drinking too much, all the things you loathe in life.
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  • Unknown C
    No, I think. I think he's a great actor. I liked him in the French Connection. I think that was a classic. He also played some really good variety. I think one of the things that people forget is that he did the highbrow, low brow and he was in basketball, sports films. He did everything. And I think one thing that is kind of missing right now is the versatility of the types of films actors are in. Like when I think about, you know, Denzel Washington, I think of actors who can do, you know, some high prestige films, but some good old crime films that just anybody can watch. Their box office success, I think we're missing in Hollywood now. I think when I think about Timothy Charlie, he's like doing nothing but major, big blockbuster films or like Oscar prestige films. But it would be nice to see him in just like a rom com or something like light or something like a suspense thriller, you know.
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  • Unknown C
    And I think that's what we're missing from actors in Hollywood right now is the ability to have crossover appeal. And I think Gene Hackman had that.
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  • Unknown E
    Really. He did. He just had. He just had a great screen presence too, didn't he? I want to play a clip. This is just of him. When Lex Luthor meets Superman for the first time.
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  • Unknown B
    Pure charisma.
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  • Unknown H
    It's open.
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  • Unknown E
    Come in. My attorney will be in touch with you about the damage to the door. Otis, take a Jones key. He was great in that. It was very different to anything else. What would you make of him? Shane Hackman?
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  • Unknown B
    Pure charisma. And I agree with Ernest. We want you to take in this moment, pure versatile actor and something we're missing. I mean, Jack Nicholson could just be Jack Nicholson and everything and live off his charisma. But Gene Hackman could do comedy. He could do. He was in the bird cage. He was in a quick, a classic quick scene in Young Frankenstein. He could do it all. And we're never going to see this type of actor again. We're. And it's sad, we're seeing the death of old school Hollywood happen real, in real time by losing these legends that will again never see the likes of again. This is, this is. Thanks. Thanks to social media, we got to know the celebrity and their era is over. And last year was a lot of evidence of that.
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  • Unknown E
    You know, the interesting thing about the mystique around someone like him, he hasn't given a television interview in over 45 years to anybody, anywhere in the world. He'll do printing.
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  • Unknown F
    Actors were like that.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah. I agree. He believes it kills the mystique that when you go to the movies, you've got to be able to disappear into the character. And if you know too much about the actors, it's very hard to do that. You think of like Daniel Day Lewis hardly ever does television interviews and is able to just morph into Abraham Lincoln or whoever. It may be much easier than the ones that you see popping up on all the chat show sofas. Right. Yeah, yeah.
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  • Unknown D
    And they're not as marketable. I mean, the last person I can think of with as much kind of range as you were saying is from Kevin Bacon. He's not like, you know, Kevin Bacon.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown D
    He's the one person that comes to mind that can actually probably do it all, you know, the cheesy rom com as the dad, but also a film about, you know, a formed pedophile. I mean, where do you find that today?
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  • Unknown E
    I think we can all agree the one who made the most great movies and then the biggest collection of turkeys after that is Robert De Niro.
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  • Unknown F
    Yes.
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  • Unknown E
    I mean, he made unbelievably brilliant film, Raging Bull, you know, all these sort of movies and then bang. He just.
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  • Unknown F
    I think at some point, in some point in the 2000s, he basically became a parody of himself. Just stop trying. And that's been it for him.
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  • Unknown E
    Let's start talking about things that.
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  • Unknown B
    There was something about going broke too.
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  • Unknown F
    I think it was a bit of a divorce settlement.
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  • Unknown E
    I want to end with James Bond because. Well, a. Because it's interesting as to that Amazon have got their clutches on the Bond franchise, given that the actual Bond franchise has done nothing since Daniel Craig was supposedly killed off as a character, I'm actually excited to go back at all because I love Bond and I hope they do restore Bond a little bit back to the one that all men and women I know, apart from Ernest, would love Bond to be, which is no more crying, plenty more shooting, a lot more drinking, a lot more Shaggy, a lot more Shaggy, a lot more womanizing, where he doesn't really talk about Anora, though.
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  • Unknown C
    But you're bugging about Anora, though, about the sex work.
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  • Unknown D
    I love Shagfest.
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  • Unknown E
    Let me play last night. For some weird reason, they didn't have live performances for best song, which may say a lot about the nominees. Instead, they did a musical and dance tribute to 60 years of James Bond. And by common consent, it was awful. Let's take a look. If this is the way the Americans are going to desecrate James Bond, I'm out. Because, I mean, just live and let die alone. Paul McCartney and Wings did a fantastic version of that. I saw Axl Rose and Guns N Roses do it one night Live. It was electric. That version there was like being slapped around the face with a damp dab from a small riverbed.
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  • Unknown B
    That's what happens when Americans take over British intellectual properties that a lot of people love. Lord of the Rings.
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  • Unknown E
    You ruin everything you people.
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  • Unknown B
    We ruin everything you guys create.
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  • Unknown D
    I agree.
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  • Unknown E
    Let's talk about each other. Let me go to critical drinker first. Why did they even bother? It was so saccharine. It was so kind of cheesy. None of the performances were anywhere near the original stuff. Why do it? Where would Shirley Bassey bring her out?
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  • Unknown F
    You know, because it's still got the veneer of coolness because it's Bond. But, yeah, when you ruin it like this, it just becomes embarrassing. And I don't know about you. Like, is it just me? Have the recent Bond songs been a bit shit?
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah, well, actually, I like the Dell's been a really good one. Skyfall. That was really good. Yes, I love that. But actually, I can't even remember I.
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  • Unknown D
    Said they got Glee actors to do it. It's like a Glee for it.
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  • Unknown E
    That was a low moment.
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  • Unknown D
    Yeah, it was just. You know what they need? They need a sample group of, like, bricklayers from, like, Newcastle to watch whatever they put out. And if it gets their thumbs up, then it's probably bingo. Exactly.
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  • Unknown B
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown E
    Ernest, what's your favorite Bond song?
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  • Unknown C
    I mean, Diamonds Are Forever is hot, but I will say modern Day. I would say Skyfall definitely does it for me. I did enjoy the Billie Eilish, but not for Bond. I'd like the song but I don't think it was necessarily a good fit for Bond.
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  • Unknown E
    By the way, I couldn't tell what.
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  • Unknown F
    Billie Eilish was singing like. I couldn't make a single word of that. She just kind of mumbled her way through it.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah. I mean, out of interest, who's your favorite Bond, Esther?
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  • Unknown D
    Probably Piers Brosnan.
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  • Unknown E
    Piers Brosnan. I love the fact you called him Piers, not Piers. His name, it's making you think Piers Brosnan. Morgan, I know you loved. He shows up very well on the list. Nedronic. Favourite Bond.
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  • Unknown B
    Oh, Sean Connery.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah.
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  • Unknown B
    Very easy answer.
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  • Unknown F
    It's close. I do like Pierce Brosnan, but it's probably gonna Sean Mc.
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  • Unknown C
    Sean Connery.
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  • Unknown E
    You know who I go for? Roger Moore. Oh, yeah, Love Roger Moore. I was young, genuinely. People would stop me in the street thinking I look like Roger Moore. Happened more than once. So I've got a soft spot for it. But also, yes, perfect blend. Perfect blend of the old womanizer, you know, the twinkle in the eye, the charm, the right accent and the steely idea of death. And he gave me the best line ever about working with Bond girls. Because I said to him, roger, I'd interviewed him for my life story show. I said, roger, what was it like, you know, doing the love scenes? He said, well, Piers, he said, let me just tell you a little story. What I used to do was, before we would do any love scene, I would say to the lady playing the Bond girl, I would like to apologize in advance if I get over excited.
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  • Unknown E
    And then he paused and he said, and I would also like to apologize if I don't. I thought that was funny. You didn't like. I think that's funny, Esther, you haven't laughed. You can't believe it.
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  • Unknown B
    I thought that was a Galarian context, I guess.
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  • Unknown E
    Yeah, maybe you had to be there. I thought it was very funny. Anyway, Esther, your grim face there was devastating. My God, you killed my punchline. We'll leave it rather like the Bond tribute itself. We'll leave on that low note which struck us dumb. Call with people. Thank you all very much. I appreciate it. Piers Morgan uncensored is proudly dependent. The only boss around here is me. You enjoy our show. We ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan uncensored on Spotify and Apple podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform irritate and entertain and we'll do it all for free. Independent, uncensored media has never been more critical, and we couldn't do it without.
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